Posted on 03/05/2015 5:57:38 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
Unexpected victor ... The 30-year-old French nucler powered attack submarine Saphir. Source: Wikipedia Source: Supplied
WITH a good submarine, a navy can do amazing things. Ask the French. Theyve just managed to sink a nuclear-powered US super carrier and half its battle group.
The French Ministry of Defence has revealed one of its attack submarines pulled of an astounding upset during recent war-games in the North Atlantic.
The Aviationist blog spotted an article on the French defence forces website quickly withdrawn which told how one of their submarines, the Saphir tackled the might of the United States navy off the coast of Florida.
Formidable force ... The aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt with a protecive force of cruisers, destroyers and frigates. A recent exercise saw this expansive, and expensive, defence force bypassed by a French submarine. Source: USN Source: Supplied
At the core of the surface force was the enormous aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and its powerful strike wing of 90 combat aircraft and helicopters.
Clustered protectively about it was several advanced cruisers and destroyers, and its own guardian submarine.
In one element of the war games, the Saphir was tasked with the role of being the bad guy.
Its mission: To seek, locate and exterminate the US naval force.
The exact details of how it achieved this embarrassing outcome is not known.
Somehow, the French submarine must have been able to slip between the defensive sensor patchwork of patrol aircraft, helicopters, warships and submarines to line up a shot on the $13 billion monstrosity.
There she lurked as a fictitious political crisis evolved in the world above.
On the final day of the exercise, the order finaly came.
Sink the Theodore Roosevelt.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...
Global warming.
The TR Battle Group had a sub.
Blah blah blah blah. Same story every few years with a different nationality attached to it. Must be appropriations time.
The Sub zeroed in on an unusual Sound coming from our Aircraft Carrier, James Taylor singing “You’ve got a Friend”.
THAT does it - somebody needs to dumb down that sub!
Hillary ought run on THAT. It’s just not fair!
“Somehow, the French submarine must have been able to slip between the defensive sensor patchwork of patrol aircraft, helicopters, warships and submarines to line up a shot on the $13 billion monstrosity. “
I am calling BS. No one would call this a monstrosity unless there was a political motive here.
We have been in a “it can’t happen to us” peacetime mindset since the cold war ended. Meanwhile, Red China has become a credible military threat and little guys such as Iran & N. Korea have got the a-bomb and rockets that can reach our shores in a few years. Russia isn’t likely to attack us, but is selling arms & tech to our likely rivals just to make trouble.
Our Navy carriers face a loss of one or two in the first days of a war now, plus our boomer & attack subs are losing the ability to hide at sea due to new tech.
We still need a land based ICBM force as a last step deterrent should all else fail, but we haven’t upgraded it in years. Our heartland is facing incoming rockets should a real war start—where is our iron dome?
Peace is best held with a potent war fighting ability, do we still have it?
So how does this attack sub get from France to the Fla coast? It transited at 25 knots underwater for about a week. During that week it screamed along broad casting its position. Now in this exercise the sub started out a few miles away creeping along at slow undetectable speed. Not realistic.
Since it moved north of the equator a few years back.
The training exercise (I'm assuming it was last month's COMTUEX) took place off the coast of Florida. It wasn't a simulated trans-Atlantic attack. The French sub was part of the exercise and already on station.
Exactly. A CVBG doesn't go into an area with known bad guys subs in a real war scenario. The hostile Sub would be tracked and probably sunk in transit long before it became a threat to the CVBG. A CVBG only goes into sanitized waters. If you cannot tell the CVBG where the bad guys are then they don't go into a high probability area unless the mission is really worth the risk.
"Sanitized" waters aren't always sanitized. Of this, I can assure you.
Like I said unless the mission is worth the risk the CVBG doesn’t go. It is all risk assessment. If there was a hostile sub with no known position except somewhere in the Sargasso Sea, that is unacceptable. I cannot give you details because it is classified but the CVBG has a lot of people helping it locate subs that are not necessary part of the CVBG.
When O is done, the Peruvian Navy could bring us down.
Don’t rule out the Albanian State Washing Machine Company either.
Your attention to this thread, please.
Not without satellite imagery and computational algorithms to analyze subtle surface disturbance patterns.
Things don’t always turn out in war, or war games, the way they stack up on paper. Its just that simple.
If we had a big war, we would lose carriers. That’s why we have more than one.
Guess what - the French have a naval base in the Caribbean. Fort Saint Louis, Martinique.
Han Solo: Good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living, that's something else.
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