Posted on 03/09/2015 5:25:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
Did you read the post you are replying to?
Here's what you said, copy/pasted from your post #74:
They should simply require the fraternity brothers to visit the Sooner Football locker room and spend some quality time with members of the Defensive and Offensive Lines, a Running Back or two and a few Sooner Defensive Backs.
There would likely be an attitude adjustment.
Now, please explain to me, exactly HOW you thought the football team members would accomplish the "attitude adjustment" you desired? With their superlative debate skills?
Keep in mind that this is a written forum, not a verbal debate. Your statements WILL follow you around, and you will not be able to say "I didn't say that", when a simple copy/paste and link will show that you DID.
You and ilovesarah2012 are on record as saying (you in #74, and her in #1) as being in favor of responding to offensive statements with violence, or threat of violence.
Will you confirm that viewpoint, or will you repudiate it? If someone is offended by a verbal statement, do you sanction the offended person responding violently? It's a simple question.
Verbal statement = threat of violence.
Hanging in a tree is a threat, not a “verbal statement”. If you want to defend that kind of talk, fine. I will not.
No, wealth.
Do you think that a white working class kid is in a privileged position with respect to the children of a wealthy black person?
PapaBear, you take things way too seriously.
For the record, in writing on FR, I think “white privilege” is something made up by liberals.
Nope. We covered the legal aspects quite thoroughly in a high-level defensive force class I attended. Summary here
For a statement to be a threat which justifies force in response, there must be clear personal intention on the part of the threatening party to commit violence, AND a credible ability to carry it out, AND your use of defensive violence must be the minimum necessary to keep you safe.
Somebody saying "I'd be happy to see you dead" is not necessarily a threat.
Somebody saying "I'm going to break your neck", with that person being in proximity to you, AND being sufficiently physically strong that he could CARRY OUT that intention, AND it being clear to a "reasonable person" that he meant it, WOULD be a "threat of violence" which could justify defensive violence.
Got any proof of that, or did you just pull it out of your sphincter?
No I would not be happy with them. Even if I agreed with their viewpoint. I wear two uniforms, one for each career I have. In both, I am forbidden to give an interview without permission. Wearing a company shirt during an interview implies that you represent the company and its views. That’s a big no-no unless you own the company or you have permission to represent the company in an official capacity.
Nope, and it’s apparent by the tap dancing around their own statements that they won’t accept they’ve been outed as proponents of additional “reparations”.
I wonder, could the frat boys be chanting their song in response to the “hands up” nonsense?
Maybe they’re voicing their displeasure at the Christian and Newsom murders/verdicts?
Who knows? But what I do know is that advocating physical violence for speaking one’s mind is demonstrative of being assimilated by the leftists...that’s their modus operandi.
My question was are whites not the victims of blacks enough already
A plague the media wholly ignore
As does most of the populace
Yet this incident really gets folks going.....even those most likely to be victims...white women
Does your indignation hide a certain reality conveniently that no one wishes to face
1920
Course hipster men prolly vote however their womyn dictate
We see a whole population absolutely cowed by political correctness. A few stupid young men and it is blown up to be a major event.
A political party could arise and in one case already has. A dynamic leader is needed. How the average Joe cannot see the facts such as you posted is beyond me. We may be digging our own graves- or the graves of children. South Africa should be a show piece. The whites fled and left much intact. Seems quite a messy place in parts.
So called World opinion and sanctions broke South Africa. the perpetrators now carefully avoid anything negative in SA. They of course ,live in comfort .security and freedom elsewhere.
Excuse the rant. We need a leader!
Please forgive me if I have not interpreted your statement properly.
If this purports to be physical violence on these stupid youths, then to do so is a criminal office. People do not like certain people of course. To beat up on such stupid youths could lead to injury, even death. See hazing.
It is the law written large regarding assault. The NFL does not need any more problems. Please excuse the ramble.
Do your own research. There are former and current SAE members all over the internet confirming it. Shaggybevo would be a good place to start. SAE has a bad reputation and is in trouble all over the country.
I did a search, found a couple of prior incidents at other places, but nothing to indicate a nation-wide issue with SAE.
You are the one making the accusation, so it falls upon you to provide evidence backing up your assertion.
Oh, for God’s sake. Was that song stupid and a mistake? Sure it was, but somehow I doubt those boys have serious intentions of hanging people from trees.
Oh, they uttered the N-word! Let me clutch my pearls in horror!
Is the use of that particular word offensive? I’d say it depends on the speaker, since blacks use it with regularity.
It’s a WORD. Sorry, I just can’t work up the required outrage.
I’m offended every day by things I hear, but I don’t try to start national incidents over them, nor do I call for the rending of garments and the wearing of hair shirts. I knew when I heard about this we’d see folks hurrying to prostrate themselves.
Just a few years ago the Black Panthers publicly encouraged the killing of white men, women, and BABIES. Where was the national outcry then? Also, why didn’t black people take to the streets then, with signs and slogans to support US?
Oh, that’s how it works? Make a bold assertion, and then tell everybody else to do the research.
Hey, I heard you like goats in a marital way. It’s all over the internet.
It’s a good thing that anti-Semitism is ok, otherwise there would be a long list of university closings.
Im sorry but those lyrics are absolutely the most appalling things, THE most racist things I’ve heard in this day and age, with the exception of ISIS or other Islamist hate.
There is nothing in even violent rap lyrics as annihilating as these lyrics.
THIS IS UNFORGIVABLE that young men / women in 2015 would have this sentiment and voice it on tape or not ever today. Of any race. I hope they are named, I don’t mind any “vigilante Justice “ beatdowns, and I hope their ability to earn money is negatively affected forever.
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Now, please be specific as to where I mentioned race, violence or even implied that black football players should hurt or otherwise be violent against the frat brothers who expressed their desire to hang blacks from trees.
It's funny seeing you squirm on this.
They should simply require the fraternity brothers to visit the Sooner Football locker room and spend some quality time with members of the Defensive and Offensive Lines, a Running Back or two and a few Sooner Defensive Backs. There would likely be an attitude adjustment.
So, what exactly were you thinking that the football team was uniquely qualified to do, to provide an "attitude adjustment", which could not be done better by the debate team? You must have had some particular thought about it when you were writing that? Do you remember what it was?
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