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6-year-old heart patient's shooting death rattles St. Louis
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 3/1915 | ALAN SCHER ZAGIER

Posted on 03/19/2015 6:18:13 AM PDT by Kartographer

Marcus Johnson Jr.'s parents figured a sunny day at a city park was just what their son, a 6-year-old kindergartner, needed while recovering from heart surgery the previous week and a doctor's visit that same day.

Instead, the family will bury Marcus on Thursday after the child was shot in the chest and killed in an attack his mother and father said stemmed from a traffic dispute. The boy's 15-year-old brother and a 69-year-old family friend were also wounded by the occupants of a car who shot at the family's minivan as it left O'Fallon Park on the city's north side on March 11. Marcus Johnson Sr. said he returned fire in self-defense as the rolling shootout continued for several blocks, with three other children — ages 8, 10 and 11 — in the car.

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To: CGASMIA68

“The father engages in a rolling shoot-out with 5 of his kids in the van?”...

“Child endangerment”? Guess that depends on who shot first. Either way, was this yet another example of Street Rat justice or simple road rage?


21 posted on 03/19/2015 7:09:26 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: baltimorepoet

It is interesting how there are certain behaviors that seem to be more prevalent among certain subcultures (generally manifesting as thoughtlessness towards other people). For example, the whole blocking-the-road-to-have-a-conversation-with-someone-on-the-other-side-of-the-road and the talking in a movie theater during the movie...


And then we are called racist if we make note and say out loud what you just expressed here..................


22 posted on 03/19/2015 7:16:43 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Just going to be another good excuse......


23 posted on 03/19/2015 7:20:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: defconw
Sure, but the shoot out was not over traffic, I'd put money on it. So pot or meth?

When you get a car full of drunks, all it takes is a honked horn answered with a flipped bird and it's on.

24 posted on 03/19/2015 7:24:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Balding_Eagle

“These people are so undeserving of our money words can’t express my contempt.”

Beau has really brought me around to this way of thinking. I’d LIKE to keep thinking that EVERY life is precious, but after knowing a number of people that had MILLIONS spent on them to extend their lives - and then they died, ANYWAY - I am more and more convinced that we need to set some sort of parameters on this stuff.

The ‘Dad’ in this situation would make a FINE organ donor. ;)

OTOH, when my Best Gal pal was dying of cancer, she was so amazingly BRAVE and told the doctors to experiment on her at will with meds and different chemo procedures, etc., in case it might help the cause in the future. She was terminal, and the last two months of her life were pretty awful for all of us. :(

Then on the THIRD hand, I care for my aging Dad and ALL of his ‘ailments’ are self-inflicted. Smoking for 40 years (he’s quit, but the damage is done), drinking too much (I’ve got him down to Lite Beer, Thank You, Jesus!) way overweight, tethered to oxygen, diabetic (caused by the weight) won’t eat his veggies, hasn’t really MOVED since he retired 25 years ago...and living with a false sense of independence thanks to me and the gals I hire to help me care for him.

He doesn’t have a care in the world. *Rolleyes*

Yep. This is a tough one for me. Just when I want to smother him with a pillow in his sleep, he tells me how much he loves me and greatly appreciates everything I do for him. Dammit. ;)


25 posted on 03/19/2015 7:42:22 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Bless you for the fine work you do taking care of Dad.

Your Heavenly Father notices.


26 posted on 03/19/2015 7:46:45 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Kartographer
"... Marcus Johnson Sr. said he returned fire in self-defense as the rolling shootout continued for several blocks, with three other children — ages 8, 10 and 11 — in the car..."

What the...? A "rolling shootout" between the gangsters and the dad in two separate cars? What sort of hell has St. Louis turned into?

27 posted on 03/19/2015 7:49:38 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: exit82

He’s what guides my hands AWAY from the pillow on days when it’s needed, LOL!

‘Strengthen me, Oh Lord, this day, for all that lies ahead!’

My Morning Prayer. :)


28 posted on 03/19/2015 7:51:31 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Kartographer

American blacks have average IQs of 85, according the 1994 book “The Bell Curve.”

Therefore far, far more of them are even lower. Suited for repetitive, simple labor. Such labor has almost entirely been automated, exported or taken over by immigrants.

The results are before our very eyes.


29 posted on 03/19/2015 8:00:16 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Balding_Eagle; CGASMIA68

Me too. :0(


30 posted on 03/19/2015 8:18:29 AM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m not quite in your shoes, but do take care of an elderly relative who lives with us.

And you are right, the Lord is the source of our strength.


31 posted on 03/19/2015 8:24:11 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Kartographer

Sorry, but IMO dad should have let the maniac just go after the first shot, not pursued him with a one-for-one while his kids were in the car. He’s got to be crazy to have escalated the situation, ESPECIALLY with his family in the car. Poor kid(s).


32 posted on 03/19/2015 9:29:36 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: baltimorepoet
It is interesting how there are certain behaviors that seem to be more prevalent among certain subcultures...

I first noticed the behavior in college. Coeds would partially block stairs at two levels to yell to each other while everybody else was trying to get to the next class.

Don't remember anybody pulling out a gun, knife, whacking, or even shoving the blockers out of the way.

33 posted on 03/19/2015 10:16:10 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

Probably because subcultures vary in degrees to which sociopathy is tolerated.

There is a certain amount of narcissism involved in blocking a thoroughfare and ignoring everyone around you trying to get past. Woe to those narcissists who encounter the next level up in sociopathic behavior...


34 posted on 03/19/2015 10:54:31 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: Kartographer

We were picking up a friend from a Logan Airport Satellite parking area last month and my GF sort of cut off a black guy behind us, at the red light the guy was hanging out the window yelling something at us, my first reaction was to confront the skinny little dbag but then my common sense took over, rule #1: Avoid the Groid so i kept my mouth shut and ignored him.
For all i know i avoided a gunshot wound by doing so.


35 posted on 03/19/2015 11:01:00 AM PDT by mowowie (`)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It isn’t so much that the kid died, unfortunately those things happen even under the best of care and intentions.

What infuriates me is that his father placed him into a shooting war, one that the father could have walked away from with his family intact at almost any point. But he didn’t.

Oh, and about smothering your father, best not too!!!

It would be bad manners! You’ll miss him, and your new fiancée will have to visit you in prison.

It’s my guess conjugal visits are not all they’re cracked up to be.


36 posted on 03/19/2015 7:04:58 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

LOL! I’ll be good. I promise! :)


37 posted on 03/20/2015 6:41:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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