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The H-1B Visa
Townhall.com ^ | March 29, 2015 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 03/29/2015 6:40:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 03/29/2015 6:40:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The libertarian-leaning me believes an American employer should be able to hire pretty much anyone he or she wants to hire.

Yeah, no. If you want to hire Indians, open a branch in India. In America, hire Americans.

2 posted on 03/29/2015 6:42:18 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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Change H1-B awards to salary-based instead of lottery-based and then almost everyone would be happy except for a few people on Freerepublic.


3 posted on 03/29/2015 6:44:43 AM PDT by impimp
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A much better solution would be to base H1B visas on salary. The highest salaries would get priority for visas, and an H1B visa would be a permit to work in the US for 3 years, so H1B holders could change jobs with no penalty if they wished.

This would wreck the whole current business model, but that’s the idea.


4 posted on 03/29/2015 6:47:29 AM PDT by proxy_user
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my bank do hire people in India who’s doing the server supports. and they get paid less... 15k per pereson...
so yeah... we had a round of layoffs in the states, one of us for 5 of them to do 24h/7d support.

that makes it even worse.


5 posted on 03/29/2015 6:52:39 AM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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I agree the visa program is a mess.

But, hey Chuck, how about giving up that food-fuel ethanol catastrophe that you benefit from so extensively?

I guess if it ain’t your Ox, you don’t mind wearin’ the horns.

Crony Capitalism is rampant in DC.


6 posted on 03/29/2015 6:52:42 AM PDT by Macoozie (1) Win the Senate 2) Repeal Obamacare 3) Impeach Roberts)
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To: 9thLife

In a perfect world, the employer should be free to hire whomever he wants that best fits the bill.

However, when government interference and inducement are included, free-enterprise and the freedoms and rights of citizens are often supplanted by political will.

All too often, the citizens’ protections such as employer certification of unsuccessful attempts to fill needs with citizens are fabricated or outright overlooked in favor of cheaper foreign workers. THAT process should be rigorous, stringent and DEMAND substantive proof before allowing it.

Personally, in my career I’ve had two H1-Bs and a student visa employee be put on me. None of them were innovative, diligent or successful in delivering what I needed. They were too concerned about becoming permanent residents with a pathway to citizenship. IOW, they lied and lied again about what they would do and wanted to do..


7 posted on 03/29/2015 6:52:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Declare H1B to be racist slavery.


8 posted on 03/29/2015 6:53:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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I'd much prefer qualified working people coming here than the current uncontrolled inrush of welfare cases and criminals.
Productive people add to the economy.
An H-1B immigrant already has a job before he comes here, he may take up a position, or one is created for him, but he produces, consumes and pay taxes and somewhere up or down the supply line, more jobs are created as a result.
It's not a problem.

9 posted on 03/29/2015 6:53:20 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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How about whole we can this disgusting program. America for Americans. You want kids to study stem in college? Eliminate this program. Yes wages may go up a little in the short term but in the long term America is a stronger better nation.

NO OTHER COUNTRY ABUSES THEIR CITIZENS LIKE THIS!

10 posted on 03/29/2015 6:55:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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However, when government interference and inducement are included, free-enterprise and the freedoms and rights of citizens are often supplanted by political will.

Well said.

I should point out that I often work with H1B's in tech and they're hard working. Techs in NY do not qualify for overtime pay and are often told that they will not be paid at all over 40 hrs, but of course are expected to work. Yes, this happens, both to citizens and non-citizens -- but this is digression; the point is that they work hard and at times for no pay.

There are often cultural and communications issues but hands down they are more pleasant to work with than your average urban McDonald's employee.

11 posted on 03/29/2015 7:01:53 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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"How about whole we can this disgusting program. America for Americans. You want kids to study stem in college?"

Maybe I'm not reading this right, but, what is "whole" and what is "stem"?

12 posted on 03/29/2015 7:02:06 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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To: Paladin2
Declare H1B to be racist slavery.

If it weren't for double standards...

13 posted on 03/29/2015 7:02:32 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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Yes. I understand they can be agreeable and work hard (at least seemingly so). But I also have direct experience that they will drop you (company) like a bad habit, despite promises, should they encounter an opportunity to get what they’re really after.

I’m not talking about solder jockeys here. I’m talking degreed professionals that make promises in interviews and periodic reviews about what they’re willing to do and deliver on. In the end, it turned out they were just flat assed lying the whole time.


14 posted on 03/29/2015 7:07:05 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Noted. Opportunistic, gamers-of-the-system, shrewed. I get it.

It's a skill learned in the bazaar, I think.

LOL! Bwaaahaha! Many a truth are said in jest!

15 posted on 03/29/2015 7:10:47 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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I’m not talking about solder jockeys here. I’m talking degreed professionals

Neither am I, so am I.

16 posted on 03/29/2015 7:12:26 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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I mistook your post then. A degreed engineer is not a “tech”.


17 posted on 03/29/2015 7:13:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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A degreed engineer is not a “tech”.

anyone who works in tech is a tech.

I didn't see the requirement that I wear a tuxedo to your party. But this sheds light on what makes some Americans unemployable.

18 posted on 03/29/2015 7:20:57 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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H-1B another gateway to Jihad. If you like cheap labor...go there.


19 posted on 03/29/2015 7:21:10 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: 9thLife

Not in accepted vernacular and practice.


20 posted on 03/29/2015 7:27:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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