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Ted Cruz gets specific on 'abolishing the IRS'
Washington Examiner ^ | DAVID M. DRUCKER

Posted on 04/27/2015 12:43:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 04/27/2015 12:43:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; MountainDad; aposiopetic; ...
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2 posted on 04/27/2015 12:44:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rothschild had his mafia thugs kill the last president that tried that.


3 posted on 04/27/2015 12:46:27 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: SoConPubbie

Close the ‘loophole’ that allows the regulatory agencies to bypass congress!


4 posted on 04/27/2015 12:47:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

This election is literally Ted Cruz against the world.

The most corrupt evil centers of power on earth have their hands in America’s pockets now.

Cruz!


5 posted on 04/27/2015 12:48:45 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Close the ‘loophole’ that allows the regulatory agencies to bypass congress!

Amen to that Jim!
6 posted on 04/27/2015 12:49:37 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

I can shoot all kinds of holes in the Flat Tax arguments.

But this is Ted Cruz, and I’ll take him along with his flat tax over anything else.

But ....

He will catch a whiff of HR 25 for sure.

In fact, has has already said he supports HR 25.


7 posted on 04/27/2015 12:51:17 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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But some federal agency is going to have to collect taxes

True. Customs collects duties. But other then that, all we need is a couple of guys in an office who send 50 bills out: Let the States collect their dues for keeping the FedGov operating, and send them in annually.

Other then that, no need for a giant bureaucracy.

That's what the Founders planned. They had it right.

8 posted on 04/27/2015 12:55:44 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: SoConPubbie

I would prefer a national retail sales tax
(not necessarily the “fairtax” and it’s complicated “prebates”).

But a flat tax would just be an adjustment to the existing tax code,
and could be implemented by an act of congress, whereas
a national retail sales tax would require a constitutional amendment.


9 posted on 04/27/2015 12:58:47 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th ("We The People" have met the enemy; and he is "We The People".)
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“Rothschild had his mafia thugs kill the last president that tried that.”

Hmmm.... I don’t know why but something about a goose popped into my head when you stated the above.


10 posted on 04/27/2015 1:01:29 PM PDT by A Voice (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Regulator

That would be great. As sovereign entities, the states could then decide on a year-by-year basis how much they should send in and how much they would withhold. Some states will simply decide they can use the money better back at home.


11 posted on 04/27/2015 1:01:38 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: SoConPubbie

I do believe he would do that, and I don’t say that about any politician. The democrats will present this as stealing from the poor and giving to the rich. Hopefully Cruz team will come up with a simple one liner to get low info voters on board.


12 posted on 04/27/2015 1:02:22 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Hostage

What is HR 25?


13 posted on 04/27/2015 1:03:25 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Repeal The 17th

The NRST is the way to go, morally, because it taxes consumption and not production.

The prebates aren’t that hard to understand, it’s just exempting the first X amount spent as assuming that this spending is what a poverty level person would by just to exist.

And the great thing about that is that the ‘rats can’t use the prebate system to exempt their constituents from taxes.


14 posted on 04/27/2015 1:04:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Jim Robinson

You think lobbying is bad now? You think the prostitutes in congress are bad now? Wait til the EPA, DHS and DoE have to come to congress for funds. They’ll make the other lobbyists look like pikers.


15 posted on 04/27/2015 1:06:04 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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To: Repeal The 17th

The problem with shifting from taxing income to taxing consumption is that it isn’t fair to people who have already been taxed on income.


16 posted on 04/27/2015 1:06:41 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: SoConPubbie
I think in the end, Cruz sees the income tax code as an undecipherable circa 75,000 page mess that is rife with political corruption and costs Americans a shocking US$1 TRILLION per year in compliance and economic opportunity costs--small wonder why the recovery from the 2008 stock market crash is mostly limited to the technology and financial sectors (and only to a somewhat lesser extent the biotech sector).

We need a complete rethink of national taxation to create a true, broad-based economic growth for the future. That will require first going to the flat tax plan Steve Forbes proposed in 1996, then put into place the structure to finally phase out the income tax within 3-4 years afterward (including repealing the 16th Amendment) and replacing it with something like FairTax (Cruz has expressed interest in FairTax recently).

Imagine US$900+ billion per year freed up for economic activities and not more taxes on the process of earning money. The result would be an economic boom on a scale that would far surpass the economic boom of the 1980's.

17 posted on 04/27/2015 1:19:13 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Rusty0604

One could go back to the original 1913 version where only the top quadrant of income earners even had to file a payment. Roughly half aren’t paying anything now.


18 posted on 04/27/2015 1:19:22 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SoConPubbie

“In its purest form, a “flat tax” treats all taxpayers equally. Income is taxed at the same rate regardless of earnings or wealth, while allowing for no tax deductions or exemptions. But Cruz said his flat tax proposal might allow some deductions, possibly for popular write-offs like for charitable donations and mortgage interest charged on a primary residence, paid annually by homeowners.”

When you allow even one carve out, here come the special interest lobbyists. Better to bite the bullet and say no exceptions. That let’s you get the standard tax rate to the lowest possible level for everyone, while playing no favorites.


19 posted on 04/27/2015 1:23:51 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Rusty0604

I’ll give you an example. HR 25 is to the US Income Tax Code what Year 2016 100 Gigabyte Ultra Burst Wimax is to 1988 100 baud dialup.

https://www.congress.gov/114/bills/hr25/BILLS-114hr25ih.pdf


20 posted on 04/27/2015 1:38:47 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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