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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I for one welcome the changes.

How is it the people who work and have money deducted from their wages and pay these people have to take drug tests, but if you’re getting benefits you don’t? If you are on drugs and taking govt benefits, it proves you have no desire to hold any kind of decent job. How the hell are you going to pass any potential drug tests.

This is total fairness. Total fairness. If you’re living off the charity of others it’s not that much to ask to please not spend it on substances that will prevent you from being hired for even some of the most basic (or better) job positions.


3 posted on 05/04/2015 12:24:07 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You are correct.

To do anything less is to enable sloth, encourage dependency and invite decline.


7 posted on 05/04/2015 12:28:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Secret Agent Man

I mostly agree.

I disagree that it’s total fairness. It is fair to require the recipient to take a drug test. It is still completely unfair to the taxpayer who has money stolen from him to pay for welfare. (Whether the welfare recipient is truly needy or drug-free has no bearing on the fact of the theft.)

Thou shalt not steal. There is no loophole that says it’s ok if you give the money to a third person. There is no loophole that says it’s ok if the majority vote to steal the money.


51 posted on 05/04/2015 6:26:01 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

More thoughts on Scott Walker’s demand for drug tests:

This will reduce the taxes needed to pay for the layabouts.

Take 1/3 to 1/2 of the money saved with the reduction of welfare payments & REDUCE the taxes in Wisconsin. They are now & have always been awfully high.

Take some of the other money saved & :

IDENTIFY kids who have finished high school & have a real diploma who cannot get a job. Pay PART of their tuition & supplies to a VOCATIONAL school, where they can learn a trade. These possible students must have a clean record-—no arrests or other criminal records—including plea bargaining-——be of good character—& must pass a test to determine their abilities & skills which lean toward a particular trade-—carpenter—plumbing—electrician—whatever.

Believe it or not, there is a severe shortage in the USA of farriers-—people who trim hooves & put shoes on horses. Farrier schools are available in the USA, and then a person could apprentice with an older farriers for a minimum period of years. They could be called journeyman when the master farrier says so. The master farrier gets a direct $$$ for $$$ tax credit for taking the student on as an apprentice. Same for any other trade or business.

Then offer a DIRECT $$$ for $$$ tax credit to a business affiliated with such skill set which will hire these students 4 hours a day. They earn some money, get hands on experience are attending school to advance themselves. They will end up with skills & become TAX PAYERS-—instead of TAX TAKERS.

The student might end up in the business which helped to train them—they might end up in another location. However-—they will have skills & a reason to be productive.

The scammers must be removed from the benefit systems all over the USA. This plan benefits each community as a whole===keeps younger workers flowing into the trades while older ones retire.

This plan only applies to high school graduates who have a clean record & are motivated.

Since I don’t live in Wisconsin ( I was born there), can anyone here get this idea to Gov. Walker???


55 posted on 05/04/2015 9:54:50 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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