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Pamela Geller plays with fire
nydailynews.com ^ | may 4, 2015

Posted on 05/05/2015 4:46:16 AM PDT by lowbridge

Americans will defend to the death — and literally had to — Pamela Geller’s right to disseminate images of the Prophet Muhammad. The First Amendment applies even to irresponsible provocateurs.

A Geller-organized event in Texas over the weekend included inviting artists to draw images of Muhammad, an act that has provoked deadly attacks by some Islamists.

In explaining her rationale, Geller pointed to an Iranian Holocaust cartoon contest that drew nearly 1,000 entries, saying “We need to make a similar show of strength of what is right.” Which extended to a drawing of Muhammad anally impaled on a pencil up through his mouth.

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She has set out not to just risk violence, but to provoke it . Pamela Geller n’est pas Charlie Hebdo.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1a; art; dontmesswithtexas; firstamendment; freespeech; geller; islam; jihad; madmo; mohammed; muhammad; pamelageller; pedophilia; texas
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To: Stymee
The First Amendment applies even to irresponsible provocateurs.

This author and paper recommend parents tell their kids, "Do whatever the bully wants, because you don't want to provoke him."

As Geller stated many times yesterday, do we let savages dictate our rights?

41 posted on 05/05/2015 5:32:47 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
As Geller stated many times yesterday, do we let savages dictate our rights?

According to the callers I heard on Savage, yes. A more cowardly bunch I have never heard. To me, Pam Geller is a National heroine.

42 posted on 05/05/2015 5:38:02 AM PDT by sport
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To: lowbridge
irresponsible provocateurs

Funny, that phrase was never used to describe the creator of "Piss Christ"...

43 posted on 05/05/2015 5:39:13 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: lowbridge

Geller is a real action hero!


44 posted on 05/05/2015 5:39:14 AM PDT by Leep (To put it in laymen's terms liberal/progressive ist coo coo.)
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To: sport
If this is the tone now then we are doomed, unable to recognize a threat or disntiguish between friend or foe. The TROJAN HORSE is within the gates now.

This is scary. Why PROVOKE the Muslims when you can just convert to Islam and hope for the best camel or goat sex in the region?

45 posted on 05/05/2015 5:40:09 AM PDT by Netz
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To: RoosterRedux
The media doesn't know the truth about islam...and they don't want to know.

They do know, but they've chosen the "submit" option.

46 posted on 05/05/2015 5:40:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: lowbridge

She’s not playing. She’s deadly serious. And she is good at what she does.


47 posted on 05/05/2015 5:41:15 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The Republic is unlikely to survive the multitude of fools that twice elected Obama.)
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To: kevkrom
Perhaps. That said, I have liberal friends who watch the lib media and they seem completely unwilling to hear any truth about islam.

In fact, when I have told them some of the tiniest tidbits of the truth, they accuse me of cherry picking.

On the other hand, there is no doubt that they have submitted.

48 posted on 05/05/2015 5:42:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: lowbridge

SO WHY LET ANY MUSLIMS IN THE COUNTRY....???????


49 posted on 05/05/2015 5:44:01 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: xzins

There’s a maritime term, “right of innocent passage” that allows ships to cross through other nation’s territorial waters.

The USN routinely does this. Just to make sure that the right is continually being exercised. The conflict with Libya in the 1980s was over them declaring the Gulf of Sidra “theirs”, drawing a “line of death” across it and saying no one could cross without their permission.

It took the airwings of thee aircraft carriers, plus the F-111s of the 48th TFW (and various support ships) to make sure Khadafy got the right message on that.

It’s when someone says you can’t exercise a right that it becomes absolutely imparative that you do so.


50 posted on 05/05/2015 5:45:08 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: alstewartfan

especially at last call & closing time


51 posted on 05/05/2015 5:48:06 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: sport

I agree. It was very tempting for me, I am a minister, to side with those claiming we shouldn’t prod the bear. But as I thought about it, I thought of the “Piss Jesus” supposed art. It truly offended me. But that didn’t rise to the level of my taking that artist’s life, and certainly not those going to look at it. The bible truly does say, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.”

So, what we have are people who are bullying others into submission. We understand incrementalism. An inch here, an inch there, and after two generations of that, we have a liberal/progressive disaster unfolding in our country.

With these people, an inch here and an inch there, and 2 generations from now we’ll be having LEGAL honor killings.


52 posted on 05/05/2015 5:48:31 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lowbridge

You can’t get around the fact that the liberal view of this justifies violence and validates it as a legitimate means of protest.

They do this by continuously questioning Pamela Gellar’s motive and pointing out that it wasn’t ‘prudent’. By doing so they give de facto legitimacy to opposition violence.

Watching the news shows it appears they all are trying to focus on whether it was prudent of Pamela Gellar to hold such a contest — which belies the point of Muslim extremists using mayhem and murder as a way to stifle anti-muslim sentiments.

If conservatives start getting violent and start a Christian Jihad against gay marriage, abortion, atheism, taking down the cross at Mount Soladad, I wonder if the news narrative would suddenly shift and the media start condemning the advocates of these anti-christian issues for inflaming the Christian Jihadists.

Finally, I wonder what the female journalists and their crews who have been dragged off, raped and beaten feel about the issues.


53 posted on 05/05/2015 5:49:42 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Give me liberty or give me a cash settlement.)
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To: tanknetter

Excellent illustration, tanknetter.

See #52


54 posted on 05/05/2015 5:49:43 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: lowbridge

This is a litmus test.

If anyone resorts to violence towards someone exercising their First Amendment rights, then they cannot be in this country.

These two guys failed, but instead of being deprived of their citizenship because they won’t follow the law, they were deprived of their lives by people who do follow the law.


55 posted on 05/05/2015 5:50:21 AM PDT by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant.)
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To: Travis McGee

That drawing captures the essence of why this event HAD TO BE held.


56 posted on 05/05/2015 5:51:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tanknetter

I have a libinlaw that “slipped” and said that those who won’t serve gay “weddings” “need to be targeted”,

but I’m sure would say that this event shouldn’t have been allowed because it’s offensive.

Yeah, I believe the majority of “liberals” would “think” this way.


57 posted on 05/05/2015 5:53:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Thanks. I create and post memes in the hope that they will be shared across social media. We readers are literally a dying breed. To reach most Americans, snappy memes and youtube videos are much more effective than written comments among the choir.


58 posted on 05/05/2015 5:54:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: lowbridge
If the situation approaches the point to where attending Christian churches is considered a "provocation" then I think the backlash will be devastating. Enough is enough.

At that point Islamoserviles in and out of government will no longer be able to control their fellow Americans' outrage -- actually this is liable to occur long before going to church is deemed too provocative to remain a constitutional right.

So the more immediate concern is protection from outraged Americans -- protection for Muslims.

Remote living accommodations for Muslims are strongly urged -- far from harm from violent backlash.

Don't like the idea of internment? Then help get the Islamists the hell out of America.

59 posted on 05/05/2015 5:54:46 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Usagi_yo

60 posted on 05/05/2015 5:55:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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