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Walker’s vicious college-tuition scam: reason why higher-ed budget cuts are so devastating
Salon ^ | Sean McElwee

Posted on 05/08/2015 9:31:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Little Ray

That is clearly elitist. And anyone that should suggest that as part of full disclosure students in programs be given ROI stats on their major and their particular school should lower their head.

DK


21 posted on 05/08/2015 9:57:54 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Personally (and speaking as a college graduate), I’d rather see those who benefit from the education pay for their own education, rather than passing the cost on to total strangers. Among other things, I would expect students to choose more sensible majors if they had to pay for it themselves.


22 posted on 05/08/2015 9:58:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Pollster1

And don’t think it won’t make a difference to potential employers as to how a candidate financed their education.


23 posted on 05/08/2015 9:59:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"Easiest way to save millions. Consolidate. "

Easier still, on-line classes. There is no 4 year degree. NONE. That cannot be learned by on-line classes with periodic lab work.

24 posted on 05/08/2015 9:59:53 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The policy of "everyone deserves a college education" at the expense of the tax payer is a failed one. As a society our Founders identified the necessity of a base level of reading, writing, math, and history for all citizens. They were smarter than to think everyone would want, cherish, or utilize advanced schooling. As is so frequently the case, they were smarter than the well-meaning do-gooders of today.


25 posted on 05/08/2015 10:00:55 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: dfwgator

Having hired college graduates for years, I agree completely. I’m sure there are exceptions, but someone who worked through college or who took loans to pay for college is far more likely to have taken the academic side of college seriously.


26 posted on 05/08/2015 10:05:21 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: so_real

The world needs ditch diggers, too.


27 posted on 05/08/2015 10:07:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

So many of the undergraduate classes are taught by grad students or contract teachers who get paid a fraction of a college teachers salary. Further, so many depts are feather bedded by colleges requiring classes that are irrelevant to the actual degree courses.

You could cut a year or more out of a degree by getting rid of extraneous classes.


28 posted on 05/08/2015 10:16:35 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“With a massive tax giveaway to the rich” are words that immediately alert me to the slanted, left wing, class division crusaders who inundate our airwaves and “journalism” with their indoctrinated Marxist preachings. Never a point in reading any further.


29 posted on 05/08/2015 10:22:20 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

When I went to school, the amenities were paid for via room and board. If you wanted those features you need up paying for them.


30 posted on 05/08/2015 10:23:30 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would support the total withdrawal of all federal money from all higher education and the privatization of all state colleges.


31 posted on 05/08/2015 10:26:59 AM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

:) Exactly. He’s making all the right enemies...


32 posted on 05/08/2015 10:34:08 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: rstrahan
You could cut a year or more out of a degree by getting rid of extraneous classes.

Get rid of all the departments and degrees that have no real place in a serious school.

"Gender Studies", African-American "Studies", etc., have no value as undergrad degrees. They should only offer a undergrad survey course, and let anybody interested work their way through real liberal arts degrees first, before becoming angry mis-educated Utopians blaming their boots for the faults of their feet.

Throw in AA as well. The not-ready-for-real school work types requiring remedial programs are a drain on the higher ed system.

Let such ill-"educated" go to either community college, or trade schools. Actual trades are almost always in demand, and they can do extremely well. Heck, one world renown theoretical physicist started off as a journeyman plumber.

The way the administrations and trustees have knuckled under to any given mob demanding this, that, and the other thing has devalued college degrees too.

And don't forget the increased "amenities" as mentioned in the thread as well. Lots of formerly respected schools have gone to appealing to the "all play and no work" demo.

33 posted on 05/08/2015 11:03:29 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

U of W wanted to RAISE the tuition, and Walker locked them in, forbidding increases. The system was also hiding $600 MILLION while pleading poverty. The crime is the wasted resources from an out of control system that is largely beyond any accountability of any kind.

It takes chutzpah for salon.com to blame Walker for a problem caused by the system’s controllers and its enablers.


34 posted on 05/08/2015 11:07:14 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The smell of fear emanating from Salon is quite enjoyable.

5.56mm

35 posted on 05/08/2015 11:07:33 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...to pay for reckless tax cuts.

Salon is a typo. Saloon.


36 posted on 05/08/2015 11:20:01 AM PDT by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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To: zeestephen
I read recently that Walker used to support in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants.

You read wrong. As Cincinatus' Wife frequently posts here:

January 3, 2011 - Walker assumes Office of Governor of Wisconsin.

June 27, 2011: Walker Revokes In-state Tuition For Undocumented Students Attending Univ And Colleges In Wisconsin "- On Sunday, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (R) signed his two-year 2011-2013 budget, which included ending in-state tuition for undocumented students attending public universities and colleges. In-state tuition for undocumented students was approved two years ago by former Governor Jim Doyle (D) after the Hispanic community struggled for 10 years to pass it."

37 posted on 05/08/2015 11:26:08 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Those pie charts are self-reported B.S. What other industry could get away with passing this off as factual?


38 posted on 05/08/2015 11:33:20 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

let the students pay and watch tuition drop..... except for perhaps the ivy league which is detached from reality and lost its aura of being a GOOD EDUCATION....hardly anymore...and is more of a commie training camp... look at the bungholes like hilary, cherokee warren, the kennedys, and bj clintoon.... and obumbler....
“the libtard investing in education” is simply buying educator votes and propagating communism... not worth it.


39 posted on 05/08/2015 11:36:22 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: zeestephen
I read recently that Walker used to support in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants. Please correct me if that is not true.

January 3, 2011 - Walker assumes Office of Governor of Wisconsin.

June 27, 2011: Walker Revokes In-state Tuition For Undocumented Students Attending Univ And Colleges In Wisconsin "- On Sunday, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (R) signed his two-year 2011-2013 budget, which included ending in-state tuition for undocumented students attending public universities and colleges. In-state tuition for undocumented students was approved two years ago by former Governor Jim Doyle (D) after the Hispanic community struggled for 10 years to pass it."...

Wisconsin is the ONLY state that has ever revoked instate tuition for illegal immigrants.

40 posted on 05/08/2015 12:00:09 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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