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Walker’s vicious college-tuition scam: reason why higher-ed budget cuts are so devastating
Salon ^ | Sean McElwee

Posted on 05/08/2015 9:31:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Go Walker! As soon as I saw the raw headline, I knew it would have come from Salon. They are a perfect reverse barometer, if they say anything, count on it being fallacious or corrupt.


41 posted on 05/08/2015 12:01:18 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (This is my clever tagline.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
For instance, Bobby Jindal plans to savage higher education spending in Louisiana

Let's use typical leftist "logic" and talking points to criticize the Salon writer:

By using the word "savage" to describe Bobby Jindal's plans for higher education spending in Louisiana, Salon writer Sean McElwee is sending a coded message that clearly implies that Jindal, a person of color, is a savage.

McElwee is just another heteronormative, racist Democrat who is using his white privilege to dehumanize people of color. The billionaire Koch-brothers-financed Salon must immediately apologize profusely for their gross misconduct in publishing such racist garbage, and must make a sizable donation to Al Sharpton's National Action Network - No Justice, No Peace.

42 posted on 05/08/2015 12:05:24 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Richard Axtell

The rabid far-left scares normal people; their outlandish, brutish behavior (and headlines/article like this one) push people into the Republican party. Their overreach is also scaring the Left’s leadership - the 4 month siege on Walker and Wisconsin’s Capitol (and the Occupy Wall Street movement that sprang from it) are not the optics that the Democratic Party wants in the 2016 general election - but Walker attracts their attacks like bees to honey - and it draws people out of the shadows to stand up and vote R. (Obama has been very helpful in this regard too.)


43 posted on 05/08/2015 12:14:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bigbob

It’s like in Blazing Saddles where the Sheriff takes himself hostage and threatens to kill himself.

Threaten to cut PBS’s funding and they cry about having to kill Big Bird. Despite Seasame St being a revenue generator for them.

Partially shut down the government and open air memorials get barricaded and guarded, despite it costing more than just leaving them open as normal.

Anything that threatens the Progressive funding conveyor belt is met with them treatening to go after and even going after the things that cause the most visible pain. Even though doing so is both illogical and unnecessary.

The purpose of Universities is to educate. Thats their core mission. A secondary mission is to advance the state of science and knowlege through research.

Sports programs are nice, but unnecessay. Bloated administrative bureaucracies that function as make-work welfare jobs are neither nice nor necessary. Departments, chairs, profesorships and _____-studies programs that leave graduates with massive chips on their shoulders but no decent job prospect beyond pouring coffee at Starbucks are outright destructive.


44 posted on 05/08/2015 12:15:06 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good point.

One thing that stick in my mind is that since these are taxpayer-supported schools, there are a LOT of taxpayers who should have every right to ask why their $$$ is going to fund training kids in how to hate them.


45 posted on 05/08/2015 12:19:28 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Reading that made my brain hurt

This should help:

Governor Walker Statement on VE Day

"MADISON—Governor Scott Walker today released the following statement commemorating the 70th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day (VE Day):

“Seventy years ago, the United States, together with our allies, ended World War II in Europe by resolutely defeating the evils of Nazism and fascism.

I encourage all Americans to pause, reflect, and thank our greatest generation for liberating Europe and ending the unspeakable horrors of the Holocaust.

“VE Day is a celebration of transatlantic unity, our enduring commitment to peace in Europe, and a sobering reminder that freedom and liberty must never be taken for granted.

To America’s brave men and women who fought and gave their full measure of devotion for our liberty and that of Europe, we thank you on this seventieth anniversary of VE Day.

“Today, at a time of Russian aggression in Ukraine, we must intensify our efforts to help foster a Europe that is whole, free, and at peace.”

46 posted on 05/08/2015 12:20:20 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tanknetter

You’re darn right!!

The nation needs to shake off the cobwebs.


47 posted on 05/08/2015 12:21:07 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From the NY Times:

Interestingly, increased spending has not been going into the pockets of the typical professor. Salaries of full-time faculty members are, on average, barely higher than they were in 1970. Moreover, while 45 years ago 78 percent of college and university professors were full time, today half of postsecondary faculty members are lower-paid part-time employees, meaning that the average salaries of the people who do the teaching in American higher education are actually quite a bit lower than they were in 1970.

By contrast, a major factor driving increasing costs is the constant expansion of university administration. According to the Department of Education data, administrative positions at colleges and universities grew by 60 percent between 1993 and 2009, which Bloomberg reported was 10 times the rate of growth of tenured faculty positions.

Even more strikingly, an analysis by a professor at California Polytechnic University, Pomona, found that, while the total number of full-time faculty members in the C.S.U. system grew from 11,614 to 12,019 between 1975 and 2008, the total number of administrators grew from 3,800 to 12,183 — a 221 percent increase.

The rapid increase in college enrollment can be defended by intellectually respectable arguments. Even the explosion in administrative personnel is, at least in theory, defensible. On the other hand, there are no valid arguments to support the recent trend toward seven-figure salaries for high-ranking university administrators, unless one considers evidence-free assertions about “the market” to be intellectually rigorous.

What cannot be defended, however, is the claim that tuition has risen because public funding for higher education has been cut. Despite its ubiquity, this claim flies directly in the face of the facts.

Paul F. Campos is a law professor at the University of Colorado, Boulder, and the author of “Don’t Go to Law School Unless"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/opinion/sunday/the-real-reason-college-tuition-costs-so-much.html?_r=0
48 posted on 05/08/2015 12:43:29 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
why higher-ed budget cuts are so devastating

Hehehe... HOHOHO... LOL... ROTFLMAO...

Sorry, I couldn't even make it past the headline.

49 posted on 05/08/2015 12:46:49 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Jack Hammer

Are you a professor? A researcher?

I taught in a grad student only program at an R1 school. In addition to my ‘2 classes a term,’ I wrote articles, presented at conferences, developed and held local conferences, performed research, advised students (including thesis students, which takes a lot of work), and sat on several committees a year. I also wrote and graded grad level exam questions for students outside my department, but in my area of expertise and sat on several grad student exam or thesis committees each year. I did not make 6 figures.

Those who teach in undergrad programs generally teach 3-5 classes a term. The amount of extra time they put in for research, etc. depends upon the type of school they are in, an R1 or a liberal arts college. What they don’t do in research, they do in advising student organizations, grading, advising, faculty & university committee membership, etc. Especially in the humanities, 6 figures would be a dream.

The academic world is not what you think it is. I know professors at all types of institutions in a diversity of fields. They work hard for their money. Some have developed marvelous computing tools and applications. Some ‘just’ bring the wonderful worlds of art and literature to their students, broadening their minds and horizons. No one is sitting at home eating bon bons.


50 posted on 05/08/2015 12:56:00 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When I think of Salon, I think brothel...


51 posted on 05/08/2015 1:01:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... states have made massive cuts to higher education, with average state support falling from $9,729 per student in 2001 to $6,815 in 2011.

Fun with statistics. I want to see any agency, state, city, or district that is actually disbursing fewer dollars - that is, SPENDING LESS - on schooling at any level.

52 posted on 05/08/2015 2:26:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (We're all mad here.)
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To: radiohead

The academic world is absolutely what I think it is. I have several close friends who are college professors, and to a man (or woman) they say it would not be a bad life except... for the bureaucracy which interferes in their lives and work. I, myself, spent several years in grad school, and saw it all up close and personal, thank you.

I did NOT say that anyone is sitting at home eating bonbons. What I said is that a six-figure salary should be adequate for anyone in such a position, and no one should complain about being asked to forfeit a few bucks when business is bad, as it manifestly is. In any other loine of work, when business is bad, everyone takes a hit. People get let go, something about which tenured professors do not worry.

Moreover, tuition figures should be set at actual cost, not foisted off on the public, which gets no benefit whatsoever from Little Junior spending four years studying Renaissance Literature.

The professors I know have a tough time bringing benefit to their students, inasmuch as they are forced to file countless reports; waste endless hours seeking approval for trivial changes in lesson plans, which have to be filed in elaborate and pointless detail; waste more time in ‘self-evaluations’ and other pointless, modern, PC crap, and all of it just to give an army of college bureaucrats some way to justify the expense of hiring those bureaucrats, keeping them on, and wasting time and money that would be far better spent elsewhere.

Communism has not only infested our government, it’s weighting down and screwing up America’s colleges, too. You want to keep paying professors top salaries? Get rid of the commissars and bureaucrats!


53 posted on 05/08/2015 2:29:07 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: dfwgator

It sounds harsh, but it isn't. It's all about personality. Some folks are happiest with 9 hours of physical activity at work, and no lingering mental stresses after the five o'clock bell. And, I agree, the world needs people like this, too.


54 posted on 05/08/2015 3:49:50 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real
It sounds harsh, but it isn't. It's all about personality. Some folks are happiest with 9 hours of physical activity at work, and no lingering mental stresses after the five o'clock bell. And, I agree, the world needs people like this, too.


55 posted on 05/08/2015 5:16:25 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Walker is the nominee then watch the Democrats paint him as anti-education. No degree. Cutting funding to schools. Anti-teacher. Doesn’t believe in global warming or evolution. The press will eat it up.


56 posted on 05/08/2015 5:31:58 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Fact: Over 50% of every state's budget goes to education.

Someone should tell the Wisconsin legislature then. They spend about 31% - Link

57 posted on 05/08/2015 5:39:39 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sooth2222

Where did you get the graphic?


58 posted on 05/08/2015 7:34:50 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: cuban leaf
You and me both. Most people don't realize that the entire reason College costs so much is because of the "free" government money Colleges are getting. They take that money and turn-around and charge exhorbitantly high college tuition and room & board rates.

My oldest son is starting college this coming fall. I thank God he scored a scholarship tuition because of his ACT score. The room and board itself is stretching our budget to the point of breaking.

I cannot imagine paying Tuition AND room and board for him this coming fall. We'd be broke.

59 posted on 05/08/2015 7:39:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Less free money for leftist loons is unequivocally a good thing.


60 posted on 05/08/2015 8:33:23 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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