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The New England Patriots Prevention of Fumbles is Nearly Impossible
Sharp Football Analysis ^ | 1/28/2015 | Warren Sharp

Posted on 05/08/2015 5:06:12 PM PDT by chiller

The 2014 Patriots were just the 3rd team in the last 25 years to never have lost a fumble at home! The biggest difference between the Patriots and the other 2 teams who did it was that New England ran between 150 and 200 MORE plays this year than those teams did in the years they had zero home fumbles, making the Patriots stand alone in this unique statistic.

Based on the desire to incorporate full season data (not just home games, as a team theoretically bring “doctored footballs” with them on the road) I performed the following analysis:

I looked at the last 5 years of data (since 2010) and examined TOTAL FUMBLES in all games (as well as fumbles/game) but more importantly, TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS RUN. Thus, we can to determine average PLAYS per FUMBLE, a much more valuable statistic. The results are displayed in the chart below. Keep in mind, this is for all games since 2010, regardless of indoors, outdoors, weather, site, etc. EVERYTHING.

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One can CLEARLY SEE the Patriots, visually, are off the chart. There is no other team even close to being near to their rate of 187 offensive plays (passes+rushes+sacks) per fumble. The league average is 105 plays/fumble. Most teams are within 21 plays of that number."

For those who think this is much ado about nothing, consider not just Tom Brady, but every offensive Patriot player who carries the ball, let alone catches it. book 'em , Dano.

1 posted on 05/08/2015 5:06:13 PM PDT by chiller
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To: chiller

Cheaters gotta cheat.


2 posted on 05/08/2015 5:08:43 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: chiller

Not sure I care enough to wade into this... my Packers were done in by...themselves before they could get to the Super Tilt, so I don’t have much animus for the Patriots.

My initial reaction to this is that Brady has a lot of F*** Y** money, and maybe he should just call it a career.


3 posted on 05/08/2015 5:11:01 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: chiller

A deflated ball is easier to hang onto :) go ahead, attack!!


4 posted on 05/08/2015 5:14:26 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Drango
Are you people claiming that the softer ball gave the patriots fewer fumbles and let them play better in wet weather?

Wasn't the other team using the same game balls?

5 posted on 05/08/2015 5:15:06 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Hi! We're having a constitutional crisis. Come on over!)
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To: chiller
Belichick benches any running back that fumbles. If a RB fumbles twice within a span of one or two games, he's pretty much done for the season.

I don't think footballs deflated 10-15% below regulation would make that much difference.

I understand that you're comparing apples to apples, with plays/fumble. But with Brady at QB, they don't run as much as other teams, so the total number of plays has to be factored in, too.

6 posted on 05/08/2015 5:17:51 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Wasn't the other team using the same game balls?

No actually not. Teams use their balls when they are on offense. Only time the other team will touch the ball is in cases of turnovers, ie interception and fumbles.

Then the ball is turned over to the refs who put it back in the team's pool, and a ball from the now offense team is put into play.

7 posted on 05/08/2015 5:20:48 PM PDT by Domandred (Tea Party or Third Party. Done with the capitulating eGOP.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

they created a game plan around guys that don’t fumble. Their RBs, the TEs were surrounded by veteran guys that know how to keep the egg safe. It was part of their strategy in picking guys in the draft, in free agency and off the scrap heap.
It worked because they won.. so let’s punish them..

Goodell is an embarrassment. I’m not fan of the Pats but this is pure garbage.


8 posted on 05/08/2015 5:22:44 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: dp0622
A deflated ball is easier to hang onto

Not only harder to fumble, but easier to catch and throw.

9 posted on 05/08/2015 5:24:33 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: chiller
Note that the Patriots were doing VERY well against the Colts while using under-inflated balls.
Then the refs realized that something might be wrong, and they took away the under-inflated balls and made the Patriots play with guaranteed legal balls.
And the Patriots played SIGNIFICANTLY better.
10 posted on 05/08/2015 5:25:45 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("It's not easy being drunk all the time; everyone would do it, if it were easy.")
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To: Kenny Bunk
Are you people claiming that the softer ball gave the patriots fewer fumbles and let them play better in wet weather? Wasn't the other team using the same game balls?

The smaller the ball, the easier it is to grip, obviously.

Each team provides their own balls.

11 posted on 05/08/2015 5:28:02 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: chiller

Cheating is addictive, just like shop lifting. After you succeed a few times by cheating, it becomes impossible to stop unless caught. Exactly same as shop lifters. They never stop unless caught.


12 posted on 05/08/2015 5:29:18 PM PDT by entropy12 (I hope senator Cruz is lot less abrasive and snide than some of his supporter FRiends.)
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To: newnhdad
they created a game plan around guys that don’t fumble.

In the same way Barry Bonds created a plan to hit more home runs by injecting himself with steroids.

Deflating the ball makes it easier to grip, throw and catch.

13 posted on 05/08/2015 5:30:25 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kenny Bunk

Each team in NFL uses their OWN balls.


14 posted on 05/08/2015 5:30:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (I hope senator Cruz is lot less abrasive and snide than some of his supporter FRiends.)
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To: entropy12

Just like CHINA!!!


15 posted on 05/08/2015 5:30:44 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Belichick benches any running back that fumbles. If a RB fumbles twice within a span of one or two games, he's pretty much done for the season. I don't think footballs deflated 10-15% below regulation would make that much difference.

I understand that you're comparing apples to apples, with plays/fumble. But with Brady at QB, they don't run as much as other teams, so the total number of plays has to be factored in, too.

All that is true, and needs to be part of this discussion. But there is another bigger point: all teams in all sports push the envelope. Two NFL teams were caught piping in phony crowd noise to their stadiums. Football teams with speed mow their turf very low so they'll be fast - teams with out much speed let their grass grow so it's a slow track. Defensive minded basketball teams tighten their rims, offensive minded teams loosen them. And let's not even get into baseball, where balls are doctored all the time, and people try and steal signals all the time. What about NASCAR, they're always trying to sneak something by in the pits.

And oh, there is a range of inflation that is acceptable, so the NFL is actually inviting teams to customize their balls to their liking. The Pats just pushed it too far, but every team juggles the inflation to suit their particular quarterback. ALL OF THEM. As they should. Who wants to watch players who are uncomfortable with the balls?

And let's keep in mind that in the second half of the Conference title game, and in the Super Bowl, Brady lit it up and the Pats did not fumble - and those balls were legal.

Does he deserve a few games suspension? Yeah, I'd say he does. Is this really some kind of unheard of thing? HELL no. This kind of thing goes on in all sports all the time.

16 posted on 05/08/2015 5:33:02 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Kenny Bunk

No...not the same balls (except on an occasional fumble or interception). Each QB has his footballs prepared to his liking.


17 posted on 05/08/2015 5:33:07 PM PDT by chiller (One from the Right - One for the Fight)
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To: entropy12

They do, and they are allowed and encouraged to customize them to their QB’s liking within limits. What Brady did was simply slip outside those limits, but every single team tries to get their offensive game balls to their teams liking.


18 posted on 05/08/2015 5:34:05 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Drango

>>Cheaters gotta cheat.<<

Yes, running more plays and yet hanging on to the ball better than any other team — CHEATERS I TELL YA!


19 posted on 05/08/2015 5:35:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (When things are rightly ordered, man is steward of God's gifts and civil law enables him to do so.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
.." so the total number of plays has to be factored in, too. "

It was factored which is why it will convince you they had an unfair advantage. Stats quoted were 'per number of plays'. He broke it down every which way and no other team was remotely close to the Patriots.

20 posted on 05/08/2015 5:35:49 PM PDT by chiller (One from the Right - One for the Fight)
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