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Public-Sector Jobs Vanish, Hitting Blacks Hard [1.8 million fewer jobs in public sector]
New York Times ^ | May 24, 2015 | PATRICIA COHEN

Posted on 05/25/2015 3:20:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

".....Roughly one in five black adults works for the government, teaching school, delivering mail, driving buses, processing criminal justice and managing large staffs. They are about 30 percent more likely to have a public sector job than non-Hispanic whites, and twice as likely as Hispanics.

The Labor Department counts half a million fewer public sector jobs than before the start of the recession in 2007...understates just how much the government’s work force has shrunk.... because it fails to account for the normal growth in the country’s population: Factor that in, she said, and there are 1.8 million fewer jobs in the public sector for people to fill.

The decline reverses a historical pattern, researchers say, with public sector employees typically holding onto their jobs even during most economic downturns.

Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites..“double disadvantage for black public sector workers...They are concentrated in a shrinking sector of the economy, and they are substantially more likely than other public sector workers to be without work.”.....

...Even now, with the economy regaining strength, public sector employment has still not bounced back. An incomplete recovery is part of the reason, but a combination of strong anti-government and anti-tax sentiment in some places has kept down public payrolls. At the same time, attempts to curb collective bargaining, like those led by Wisconsin’s governor, Scott Walker, a likely Republican presidential candidate, have weakened public unions.............

....some researchers and union officials also see a racial undercurrent in the campaigns.

“With public employment in general being under attack, it’s really an attack on these communities,” said Mr. Bodner of the Philadelphia transit workers union, referring to black people......"

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: black; economy; jobs; publicemployees
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Economically, public sector jobs are pretty much a net loss. Since the wages of government workers are paid by taxes, so are all the taxes that they pay, paid by the private sector taxpayers. Since public sector workers rarely produce anything, the value of their economic contribution is in the services they provide. Some of these services are necessary (national defense, public order, ect).; some are extremely useful economically (maintaining transportation and communication networks for example); but some are economically negative.


21 posted on 05/25/2015 4:02:42 AM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s intentional. Bring it down hard on the black folk, then blame it on whitey.


22 posted on 05/25/2015 4:02:45 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Public sector employees “work?” Who knew?


23 posted on 05/25/2015 4:04:07 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Arthur McGowan
But government revenues are up, not down.

But not in the states or locally.

Then too, the Feds keep hooking them into unfunded mandates.

Added to that budgetary mess is that 50%, or more, of ALL states' budgets go to education.

24 posted on 05/25/2015 4:04:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

Disproportionality is certainly okay here when it is blacks that benefit, yet when it comes to things like convictions and incarcerations, it is racism.

I would suggest that if the cutback impact is particularly damaging to 'blacks' as a race rather than one would think of public functionary as a servant - of no particular race or creed, there is an easy remedy to this complaint.

Reduce the disproportionality of their representation in public sector jobs. There, job done, no disproportionality, no disproportionate affects due to cuts. It is simple.

25 posted on 05/25/2015 4:06:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: VietVet
Then just try and fix any of the crumbling government infrastructure and the Left that controls it fights you.

Scott Walker's GOP rips apart local democracy

26 posted on 05/25/2015 4:07:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

More jobs than their proportion of the population, what do you call that? black privilege Government needs to diversify, establish some affirmative action to address this disparity.

27 posted on 05/25/2015 4:08:54 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Jobs cause climate change!

Welfare is a green industry!

Save a whale!

Protect a polar bear!

28 posted on 05/25/2015 4:10:39 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: ronnie raygun

Apparently, “A Thousand Points of Bullsh.....”


29 posted on 05/25/2015 4:10:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sir Napsalot

Army 21.5% Black - Yes.

http://www.statisticbrain.com/demographics-of-active-duty-u-s-military/


30 posted on 05/25/2015 4:12:37 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Gaffer

An anecdote:

After Hurricane Ike devastated Galveston, TX in 2008 (among other cities), there was a big push to NOT REBUILD the projects - the Federal government eventually became involved and came down hard against it and block this good idea to have displaced families live all around the city, closer to transportation and jobs and not all bunched together in a project. Democrats must keep as many dependent people and isolated.


31 posted on 05/25/2015 4:14:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is government’s job to concentrate and cloister as many people it can in efficiently controllable geographical areas. This serves the purpose of economies of scale and efficiency as well as being a powerful influence in the process of shaping the public’s thought process.


32 posted on 05/25/2015 4:19:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A lot of people could do well as masons, carpenters, electricians, HVAC, etc. but a lot of people who could do it don’t take the opportunity. I ended up going for electrician after a degree and a fruitless job search that couldn’t find me decent paying jobs. It worked out and I make an okay salary now, and better than as a retail employee with an Environmental Science degree.


33 posted on 05/25/2015 4:19:40 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: fella

“So, now it’s official, wanting smaller more efficient government is racist.”

The government only hires the unemployable. It is the second
tier of welfare. Been saying that for years.


34 posted on 05/25/2015 4:21:58 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The pro-government bloc has reached such proportions that unless and until conservative candidates start resonating, winning elections, and enacting reform, it will only get worse.

I’m not one who believes that it will get so bad, people will eventually see the wisdom of the old values that made this country great. One look at places like Detroit show just how bad it would have to get.


35 posted on 05/25/2015 4:22:23 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Gaffer

And getting liberals elected.


36 posted on 05/25/2015 4:22:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PeteB570

Thank you, (guess I could have searched myself). I suspected it, but now I have confirmation.

If politicians have their wish (promoting/fast tracking Hispanics over other minorities in the military), that is yet another sell out for the blacks.


37 posted on 05/25/2015 4:22:49 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Morpheus2009

YES!

These are the REAL jobs.


38 posted on 05/25/2015 4:23:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Racism 24/7.


39 posted on 05/25/2015 4:33:55 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

No problem - I knew it was higher but not sure about the exact number.

Also their numbers/statistics tend to lean towards Combat Support and Combat Service Support (CS & CSS) positions rather than the Combat Arms. Ain’t going to dig that one up this morning. :)


40 posted on 05/25/2015 4:37:06 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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