Posted on 05/31/2015 5:29:06 AM PDT by GIdget2004
Yep. I thought that about Bush too.
Patriot Act is no different from any other government bureaucracy - it was created to address specific goals, and from there, it will grow out of control.
What’s particularly dangerous though, compared to the EPA, HUD, Dept of Education, is that is particularly enabled to violate Americans’ basic rights. These others took decades to grab enough power for themselves to become a threat - with Homeland Security, Americans and Congress are giving them the power outright.
As for Ted Cruz, he's for liberty alright. Except when it counts and comes time to vote against liberty wrecking legislation. And his vote on the so-called patriot act will count. Its in much the same way that Ted Cruz is all for the middle class. Except of course when his globalist friends need his help.
Look on the bright side. If this political gig doesn't work out, Ted Cruz would be a great replacement for Drew Carey......
Rand has crapped a lot more acorns than he’s gathered up in the past year.
I have major problems with the Patriot Act. I also have major problems with libertarian isolationists simpletons - simpletons who don’t understand that the fight for liberty does not begin and end with the NSA (though that is part of it).
Also, your union thug hall called, they’re ready to discuss your globalist comments.....
The “Patriot Act” needs to be totally scrapped and sent to the garbage-bin of history. Rand Paul should do EVERYTHING in his power to prevent its passage!
As with the VAST majority of legislation, its name is the opposite of what the law actually does in reality.
Everything in DC is for show. It’s easy to stand on principle when you KNOW there aren’t enough votes to pass. I’m very cynical of all politicians and their motices.
You are naive.That is handing great gouts of power to the FedGov that FedGov has been slowly accreting to itself over the years. With that Act we just hand it to them.If seccurty trumps liberty for you well, Jeb will meet your needs. Or Mrs. Bill.
Hi Arthurus,
Just for the record, I’m NOT with Sen. Paul on this one.
I have no problem with the NSA recording my phone number, since it’s ALREADY recorded in the white pages of my phone book!
I know. I know. Sen. Paul says he is worried that someone at the NSA could match my phone number with, say, my ophthalmologist’s phone number and conclude that I wear glasses.
Well, duh...
Anyone who wants to steal and analyze my garbage could learn a lot more about me.
More important to me is the question, if Sen. Paul is elected President, what is his plan to close our border?
“Unreasonable search and seizure.” What is reasonable? What is unreasonable? It is not politically correct to ask that question because the answer is not politically correct.
Proposing an irrelevant, ineffective Freedom/Patriot Act is an attempt by gutless politicians to address the real debate.
If law enforcement sees one truckload of fertilizer on a farm and another truckload of the same stuff in the middle of a city it might be reasonable to search one and not the other.
If terrorists are known to be young men that fit a certain profile, then it might be reasonable to question those young men..or tap their phones/internet activity.
But how tight should that profile be of terrorists? That is the debate that we should be having. But we don’t have the backbone to have it.
There is another facet to the distraction. I’ve known thousands of illegal Mexicans. I’ve known dozens of terrorists (FALN, PSP, etc). I’ve never known an illegal Mexican terrorist. Nobody has. They don’t exist. Yet some have their priorities all screwed up.
It is extremely not politically correct to challenge Muslims immigrants. But it is we can get by with challenging illegal Mexicans who worship beside us on Sunday in Christian churches.
Agreed!
As it stands now, I fear our own federal government more than I fear the "terrorists".
I wouldn’t give either one of them unfettered power to search and seize
You will never find a Hindu immigrant (legal or illegal) who is a terrorist. You will never find a pro-life Catholic or Protestant immigrant who is a terrorist. You will never find an Orthodox Jew or Mormon immigrant who is a terrorist.
You will find some of the following to be terrorists...and others of these groups to be terrorists supporters and sympathizers:
aetheists
Muslims
Liberation Theology types
Those who follow the Brother’s Keeper religion of Cain
Those between religions
Actually it doesn't matter a hell of a lot as to how we feel about the collection of data because it is the nature of technology that if something can be done and it enhances a government agency's power, it will be done regardless of the law. Making it illegal will not stop it. It will, however, make it more difficulat for the government to use the information against a citizen in court. The Agency collects a lot more than just the metadata.
You are a nasty person, you specialize in personal attacks. Re .. how I think? My thinking is one dimensional, constitutional or unconstitutional I make no apologizes for how I think.
 We cannot exist without you. |
I stand with Rand on this one 100%.
“Screw the Patriot Act. If they cared about security, they would stop importing foreigners.”
Shades of The Native American Party, 1855 as American Party, commonly named Know Nothing movement.
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