Posted on 06/08/2015 1:28:01 PM PDT by Pacothecat
Well, almost.
"Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus. "
John 18:10 (KJV)
“The crowd almost jumped on him and they would have been right to do so. I would have loved to see them hold him down and handcuff him with his own cuffs.”
You are nuts. The officer showed amazing restraint considering the mob behavior he was there to end.
The teen girl disobeyed lawful orders from a police officer in a mob situation and got herself in trouble. Other girls came rushing over which was also incredibly stupid of them, but they backed off when he warned them to. Then a couple of large fellas also circle around and ignore his warning for them to get back. He rightfully drew his weapon, and that is what it took to get them to back off.
The officer deserves to be reprimanded for using foul language. Other than that, he did his job.
The teens involved here need to learn a lesson about how they could get themselves and others killed by taking part in the lawless activities of their peers and fighting with cops. When the criminal activity started happening, they should have got out of there quickly. Instead, some of them wanted to see the show, argue with the cops, and generally make a bad situation worse.
I have had to deal with an out of control cop who came into a situation with wrong information and proceeded to approach like a bull in a China shop. He was looking for anything to charge me with but found there was nothing to use against me. I responded respectfully, cooperated, but when he tried to intimidate me by inferring that I needed to follow his unlawful order, I called his bluff. He backed down.
This is NOT that situation. Those teens might not have been the ones trespassing, assaulting people, or disturbing the peace; but they were contributing to the problem and interfered with the leos trying to do a difficult job.
Anyone notice how this Texas bro-ha-ha has forced the hip-hop riot in New Jersey off the front pages?
What a yawn...
Video Emerges of Violence at ‘Innocent Pool Party’ in McKinney, Texas http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/06/07/video-emerges-of-violence-at-innocent-pool-party-in-mckinney-texas/
It baffles the mind to think that there are people out there, in positions of authority, that are as naive as this dimwit seems to be....if blacks don’t want the police to bother them....BEHAVE!!!!!
You know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about police work,,,nothing. The main concern of police, when facing a rowdy gang like this is crowd control....first priority, control EVERYBODY and then figure out what is going on and the best way to squelch the riots.
Are all people in low income housing black....if not there is no racism involved......if so, why???
Just wanted to repost this:
There is SO MUCH MISINFORMATION being bandied about-—we FReepers should be above this and not participate in that effort by the progressives and race agendanistas. Please read this (see link below) analysis by Andrew Branca who is VERY knowledgeable about when the use of deadly force is justified.
By the way, any FReeper who possesses self-defense firearms (or knives or other weapons for that matter) would be well advised to read his material and/or attend one of his training seminars.
Thanks to H/A for dis-abusing me of any and all doubts re: the emerging riot.
Yep, you do not always hear the LE side of story.
You would think they would look for “real” injustice and fan that!!!
(in lieu of fabricated injustice)
“...everyone wants to be a victim....”
I know absolutely nothing? Enlighten me then, oh wise one?
I only worked for 6 years in Air Force Law Enforcement, the Air Reserve with 50 other NY State Police Officers, then in Erie County Central Police Services and then as a contractor and independent consultant for about 20 different police agencies; my son is NY State, my brother is FBI, and I give gun safety training courses.
Tell me how this incompetent cop running around like a retard, escalating every situation he encountered, was displaying good judgment and police training?
Clearly RUNNING past two officers into a crowd of kids to grab one of them, suddenly causing them all to panic and scream to the point where you have to draw your gun on them is a tactic I am unfamiliar with.
And if i remember correctly the training is to try to CALM to crowd - not escalate them into a panic by running around.
As other officer were calmly walking around a group of kids he covered about 400 yards running back and forth grabbing kids and forcing them onto the crowd and screaming and swearing at them.
The teen girl reacted as anyone would when an officer runs up and grabs you. The crowd reacted to the officer because it looks like he is attacking her.
Look again at the video- there are two officers calmly walking towards that same group, and then officer dumbass RUNS past them screaming and swearing, and grabs the girl and tries forcing her to the ground.
She was not fighting him, she was trying to protect herself from injury. The crowd around her reacts to SAVE her- and he has to draw his gun to make them back up- causing further panic.
He escalated the situation and was almost forced to shoot, and then he would have claimed it was justified because they attacked him.
And in crowd control you do not ‘control everybody’ you identify the ringleaders and remove them if you can.
Where they hell did you study riot control tactics?
“The teen girl reacted as anyone would when an officer runs up and grabs you.”
Wrong. First, the officer would not be grabbing me because when he gave me a lawful order to disperse I would have done so. Unless, of course, my goal was civil disobedience and get arrested, in which case I still would not have resisted arrest.
“The crowd reacted to the officer because it looks like he is attacking her.”
Wrong again. Unless you have strong evidence that a cop is a criminal or maybe someone pretending to be a cop, you had better cooperate in a situation like this.
When her girlfriends come rushing over, the officer glances and realizes they are not there to interfere but he tells them to back off. And they do. Then two large males come around to his side, and one moves his hands like he is drawing a weapon. That is a recipe for getting yourself killed.
“She was not fighting him, she was trying to protect herself from injury.”
When an officer tells you to get on the ground, the best way to protect yourself is to get on the ground without making him or her put you there.
This girl did not need to be there. She had been told to leave. She would not have been told to get on the ground if she didn’t come back into the situation with no reason to be there.
“The crowd around her reacts to SAVE her”
The crowd could have spared her of this embarrassment and bruised ego if they had grabbed her by the arm and led her away where she should have been at this point.
The time may come to stand up to the police for excessive force and their own criminal conduct, but don’t jump the gun. We need police to maintain law and order. When your unauthorized pool party disturbs the peace and leads to violence so the police need to come in and fix it, that is not the time to try to police the police.
“He escalated the situation “
The people who refused to cooperate and those who interfered were the ones that unnecessarily escalated the situation.
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