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Ted Cruz 2016 : TPA Senate Vote Good : TPA is NOT Secret Agrement (TPA & TPP Different) : 2015-06-12
Texas Supporting Senator Ted Cruz ^ | 2015-06-12 | Toby Marie Walker

Posted on 06/12/2015 5:05:09 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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To: Ray76

This leaves out an incredibly important point: TPA prevents a Senate filibuster and mandates a simple majority yes/no vote.

In this way it’s similiar to the budget reconciliation process used to ram through Obamacare after the Dems lost their Senate supermajority when Scott Brown won Teddy Kennedy’s seat.

Cruz certainly knows this. Knows how much easier it’ll be to ram through TPP under these rules. Knows that jerks like McCain and Graham will vote for it.

I don’t know what he’s doing here - if he were smart (and he IS) he’d be advocating for a revised TPA that preserves the filibuster.


21 posted on 06/12/2015 5:25:50 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: jsanders2001

Key point is that TPP is a done deal if TPA passes. They’ve been negotiating it for 6 years. This rush to pass it now is 100% beltway whoring for K Street money. Disgusting.


22 posted on 06/12/2015 5:25:57 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: EternalVigilance

> Contrary to what the political hacks think, we’re not stupid.

At lot of us don’t have the background to understand what “the real issues” are and we need it in laymen’s terms. I am stupid when it comes to his issue. I admit it so please enlighten so we understand what wasn’t addressed in the PR...


23 posted on 06/12/2015 5:28:01 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Ray76

Technically, yes. Can’t change existing US law, supposedly.

It does not, however, keep Obama from tacking on stupid liberal tricks like banning ammunition or weapons importation from other countries or any other stupid liberal quirky taints. Why? because he pretty much has that power anyway, but he has to do that on his own executive accord and take the heat for it. Additionally, these actions can be undone by the next President.

Via a TPA sanctioned trade pact, and it becomes law and cannot be undone - and the Congress takes the heat for it.

ObamaTrade? It’s just another way to spell T-U-R-D.


24 posted on 06/12/2015 5:28:13 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tanknetter

I don’t know what he’s doing here - if he were smart (and he IS) he’d be advocating for a revised TPA that preserves the filibuster.


What Cruz is doing is running for POTUS. Obviously the big donors have told him TPP is the price of their support. Cruz doesn’t want his fingerprints on it so he supports TPA which lowers the vote required to 50 for passage.


25 posted on 06/12/2015 5:30:34 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Here is an email that the Cruz campaign (I donated to them previously) sent me two days ago. It is terrible and sounds not only childish but as if he is doing me a favor by running. My response was if running for president is too damn hard for him he should stop, plus because of his support of this trade BS I no longer support him:

I'm about to ask you to make a sacrifice in the next 48 hours. But before I do, I want you to know: I wouldn't ask you if I hadn't already done it myself.

Please let me briefly explain.

You see, running for President of the United States is a significant sacrifice. Only through prayer and many late night discussions with my wife, family, and closest friends did I make THE decision.

And I must share with you -- I've committed to sacrificing a great deal for our campaign:

>>> Time with my family; Spending almost every day on the campaign trail or fighting on the Senate floor means precious little time spent with my wife, Heidi, and my daughters -- the very family that gives me the motivation and drive to fight.

>>> Health and sleep; My runoff campaign for the Senate in 2012 took a toll, but now I'm sacrificing even more sleep with long nights and constant travel. And the pizza diet is a staple on the campaign trail.

>>> Finances; the cost of campaigning back and forth across the country for president is increasingly expensive, but Heidi and I are willing to invest our livelihoods into this sacrifice.

>>> Personal time; You think of this the least, but as a candidate, my days are no longer my own. Days start before dawn and many times don't end until early the next morning. There is almost no personal time when you run for president.

****, I've chosen to sacrifice part of mine and my families lives to run for President -- but I think you will agree with me that the sacrifice is well worth it.

Unless courageous conservatives are willing to make tough sacrifices to stand up and fight, we will not be able to restore America.

Today, I'm asking you to make a sacrifice ****. Will you join me by making a special, one-time gift to my campaign?

I've asked my staff to put together these secure links below so you can make an instant and secure sacrificial gift -- it can be done in just 5 minutes.

I CAN SACRIFICE $35 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

I CAN SACRIFICE $100 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

I CAN SACRIFICE $250 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

I CAN SACRIFICE $1000 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

Will you be a courageous conservative and make a special gift today to help restore America? I can only reach this goal with your help.

I wouldn't ask you if 1) I wasn't willing to make the same sacrifice myself; and 2) the stakes weren't so high.

***, time is critical, and if you will, please make this special gift in the next 48 hours -- I would be so grateful.

For liberty,

Ted Cruz

P.S. I've chosen to make some steep, necessary sacrifices in our fight to restore America. Will you join me with your gift of $250 or $100? OR if $35 or $10 is a stretch gift for you, I will be grateful for every dollar you can sacrifice and will ensure it is faithfully used""".

26 posted on 06/12/2015 5:31:51 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: tanknetter

We don’t need any more trade agreements. I have yet to see any benefit for the American economy or the American worker from the trade agreements enacted over the past 30 years. Instead we have:

1) 55,000 closed manufacturing plants
2) Loss of millions of manufacturing and manufacturing support jobs.
3) Higher trade deficits - Where is the promised export boom?
4) Declining standard of living for the average American for the first time in our nation’s history.
5) Decimation of the middle class
6) Less tariff revenue for the treasury
7) The industrialization and rise of China as an economic an military threat to the sovereignty of the United States

Can someone provide quantitative proof of the economic and social benefits from these trade deals? TPP is supposed to be modeled on the EU. How’s that working out for the Europeans other than Germany?


27 posted on 06/12/2015 5:32:38 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: isthisnickcool

“Only through prayer...” “ I CAN SACRIFICE $35 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

I CAN SACRIFICE $100 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

I CAN SACRIFICE $250 TO RESTORE AMERICA >>

I CAN SACRIFICE $1000 TO RESTORE AMERICA”

Are you sure this wasn’t from Creflo Dollar?

I truly despise the use of religion to flog a candidate.


28 posted on 06/12/2015 5:33:53 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: lodi90

Yes. My thoughts also. He’s attracted some big business PACs and donors and this is the price of support.

Of all the candidates, I like him the best and would vote for him, but it does not mean at the same time I will not fight him on this TPA/TPP thing. It’s WRONG, period. But if it is inevitable, I want to wait until there is an American in the White House before it is approved over my objections.


29 posted on 06/12/2015 5:34:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: lodi90

It sounds as though this is a brick in the wall for bringing about the NWO...


30 posted on 06/12/2015 5:34:23 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Diogenesis

Agreed, I’ve been split between Cruz and Walker. Still am, but up until now Cruz was starting to make headway because of Walkers stupid fumbles and the growing differentiation between them.

This might be a reset for me on their ideological component. And if all other things end up equal by the time my primary rolls around next year, Walker ultimately has the plus of having beaten the crap out of the unions up in Wisconsin.

And ALL Cruz has to do here for me is refuse to support TPA if it doesn’t reinsert the Senate filibuster. I’m fine with the rest of the provisions.


31 posted on 06/12/2015 5:34:50 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Patton@Bastogne

It’s no use Ted...we all know you’re a commie.


32 posted on 06/12/2015 5:35:08 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: C210N

Bttt


33 posted on 06/12/2015 5:35:42 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: RitaOK
“Many of those concerns are fueled by the press.”

Those concerns should be enough reason to stop this thing. Why should the American people have to be terrififed of their government?

This is not a once-in-a-lifetime shot, put it on a back burner until the people can accept it. I hate the false urgency this Congress attaches to every damn piece of legislation that comes down the pike. It's only because they know it's crap and, like Obamacare, if they don't hurry and shove it down our throats, it may not fly.

34 posted on 06/12/2015 5:35:52 AM PDT by Kenny (,)
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To: lodi90

It isn’t just Cruz. All of the Congressional incumbent candidates are doing it as well as the other candidates - except for Paul (whom I wouldn’t vote for).

They are very thankful that this secret TPP is closed until the TPA is passed. Because their support translates into big business CoC money. It is disgusting and very disappointing.


35 posted on 06/12/2015 5:37:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Soul of the South

“We don’t need any more trade agreements. I have yet to see any benefit for the American economy or the American worker from the trade agreements enacted over the past 30 years. Instead we have:”

I would add this: The inability of the lower, uneducated classes to move out of poverty because the stepping stones to a middle class income have been destroyed by exporting manufacturing jobs.

The government has created a permanent welfare class unable to move out of it. A college education isn’t the answer for the majority who would thrive in a manufacturing era, but fail in an academic one.


36 posted on 06/12/2015 5:37:52 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Gaffer

I guess if this gets passed we’ll start hearing about a new one world currency. Islam via ISIS is already working on the one world religion aspect.


37 posted on 06/12/2015 5:38:25 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: OpusatFR

Jobs in this country have been destroyed by an entitlement system and tax code that is completely out of control.


38 posted on 06/12/2015 5:38:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

“Jobs in this country have been destroyed by an entitlement system and tax code that is completely out of control.”

On purpose.


39 posted on 06/12/2015 5:40:20 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: jsanders2001

I’m guessing maybe that, but then again it might turn out that the standard unit of currency could be a single 22LR cartridge. Bigger denominations would be larger calibers.


40 posted on 06/12/2015 5:41:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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