Posted on 06/18/2015 4:50:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Labor leaders and the higher education community are closely watching to see if other politicians follow Walkers lead.
I dont think its an immediate threat elsewhere, but its still a big concern, said Mark F. Smith, senior policy analyst at the National Education Association, which has slightly less than 200,000 higher education members.
David Bergeron, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, said he expects more such fights in upcoming years.
I think that this is just part of the evolution of attacks on public benefits and on public sector employees of all sorts, Bergeron said.
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As Republican Gov. Scott Walker prepares to campaign for president as the man who tamed Wisconsins unions, hes taking on a new labor fight: weakening tenure protections for professors at public colleges and universities.
Walker insists that by allowing the University of Wisconsin system Board of Regents, 16 of whose 18 members are appointed by the governor, to set tenure policies instead of having tenure protections spelled out in state law will help give the state university system more flexibility and financial leverage.
His effort could endear him to conservatives who are scornful of what they view as higher educations ivory tower a perception Walker has encouraged by suggesting that maybe its time for faculty and staff to think about teaching more classes and doing more work but it has infuriated academics and others who consider tenure a vital protection of academic freedom.
After lots of hammers, this seems to be like a large mallet, said James Grossman, executive director of the American Historical Association.
Sara Goldrick-Rab, a professor of education policy studies and sociology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, goes so far as to suggest Walker is grandstanding for the national electorate, trying to win over the far right by stomping on professors: Hes making an example of people in his state. If he wasnt running for president, he wouldnt be doing this, she said.
Indeed, Walker and his critics see parallels between his new effort to cut back on tenure and the 2011 initiative to strip away the protections of public union workers, including K-12 teachers, that propelled him to the national stage.
Much of Walkers credibility on the right comes from his tough stance against public employee unions and his ability to withstand a Big Labor-fueled recall effort in a state thats far from the nations most conservative. Taking on public-university faculty, another group that is often at odds with conservatives over both educational priorities and workplace conditions, can only enhance his standing as a governor willing to take on liberal special interests.
Grossman said changing tenure protections is really about controlling academic freedom. Walkers action comes at an especially difficult time in higher education after deep cuts in state funding and other efforts to thwart faculty control, such as a bill in North Carolina that would mandate that faculty teach a set number of classes, he said.
Walkers effort is part of a plan to transform higher education for the future by empowering leaders, protecting taxpayers, and promoting long-term stability, said his press secretary, Laurel Patrick, in an email.
Earlier this year, Walker said told a radio station while discussing his proposal that maybe its time for faculty and staff to start thinking about teaching more classes and doing more work. And Walker has defended his proposal by noting he has a child enrolled in the University of Wisconsin, so he has a vested interest in ensuring his plan works well.
Simple economics makes limiting tenure protections appealing. Colleges and universities overall have seen enrollment decline in recent years, and as students choices in majors shift, its financially advantageous to be able to cut positions.
Walker introduced the tenure issue in a budget proposal that included $300 million in cuts over two years and significant restructuring.
A GOP-led legislative committee approved the tenure change. It also approved a measure that would modify state law to specify that Regents can terminate faculty when its deemed necessary because a program has been discontinued or changed in other ways, not just when a financial emergency exists the way its spelled out under state law. It didnt give Walker all he wanted, and it reduced the cuts from $300 million to $250 million.
Its widely expected that the changes will be approved by the full Legislature, which is in session until June 30 or whenever a budget is passed.
Already, the Regents Board has passed a resolution to adopt the tenure language as it stands in current state law. A tenure task force is reviewing the policy, including the handling of layoffs, and is expected to provide a report next April.
Wisconsins system is rare in that tenure protections are written into state law. Typically, tenure policy is determined by an institution or a state board.
Labor leaders and the higher education community are closely watching to see if other politicians follow Walkers lead.
I dont think its an immediate threat elsewhere, but its still a big concern, said Mark F. Smith, senior policy analyst at the National Education Association, which has slightly less than 200,000 higher education members.
David Bergeron, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, said he expects more such fights in upcoming years.
I think that this is just part of the evolution of attacks on public benefits and on public sector employees of all sorts, Bergeron said.
Supporters of tenure protections say providing that job security helps universities attract and retain high-quality faculty. Much of it is about academic freedom and professors ability to speak on matters of public concern, said Rudy Fichtenbaum, president of the American Association of University Professors. Members of his organization recently passed a resolution saying it shared grave concerns being voiced throughout the world of higher learning about the actions in Wisconsin.
Obtaining tenure status at the college level typically requires intensive years of research and publishing and is difficult to achieve. Thats different than in K-12 systems, where historically in many states teachers only had to teach for a set period of time before making tenure without having to show their students were learning.
Thats shifted as states have made it more strenuous for K-12 teachers to obtain tenure status and a few states have taken it away altogether.
Already, there are fewer tenured faculty members today in higher education than 10 years ago.
Nationally, about 51 percent of public institutions had a tenure system in 2013 school year, down from 59 percent a decade earlier, according to federal data. In Wisconsin, 69 percent of public faculty have tenure status higher than almost every other state.
State leaders have often had a skeptical view of tenure and the purposes that it serves, but its such a central part of employment for high quality faculty and scientists that its hard to imagine a lot of other states will move against it, said Terry Hartle, senior vice president at the American Council on Education.
Yeh I don’t know. I was just an Associate Professor at FIU in Miami. I have no clue. I can’t do a Google search. I can’t understand a chart that shows what fulltime WI Teaching faculty are as opposed to non teaching faculty or partime adjunct faculty. Yeah. Dream on. LOL!
>>Yeh I dont know. I was just an Associate Professor at FIU in Miami. I have no clue. I cant do a Google search. I cant understand a chart that shows what fulltime WI Teaching faculty are as opposed to non teaching faculty or partime adjunct faculty. Yeah. Dream on. LOL!<<
Then you should know better and not spin the numbers to tell a tale you know to be skewed.
There’s no spin the facts are online for any fool to look at. Too bad you have no argument or you would be posting the statistics to refute me. you can’t do it because you have already looked and I’m right.
You looked it up and saw that there are about a total of 13k college faculty in Wisconsin and out of that figure there are only about 3470 fulltime “teaching” faculty. Of that figure only 996 are tenured. So less than 30%. Hey a truly terrible National problem that we must stamp out. LOL!
I came up with different numbers:
Total of Instructional Employees 2,642 2,101 541 79.5%
Total of Those With Faculty Status 1,923 1,647 276 85.6%
Tenured Faculty 1,288 1,226 62 95.2%
1288 out of 1923 is 66%
I suspect it is YOUR ox being gored here. Tenure USED to be useful, back when there was acaemic freedom. Now, it is used to protect American hating communists (I am not accusing you of the latter).
And even if there is 1% of tenured faculty, is is RIDICULOUS to have tenure encoded into State Law.
Yes and I found another set of figures on the Univ site that quoted 1243 fulltime teaching with 508 tenured for 41%. It jumps around. But no University could afford to carry a high percentage of tenured faculty. That’s why they make it very hard to get tenure. They use a lot of adjuncts who can be hired and fired with impunity. They use the graduate assistants as instructors also. Tenure is a big deal.
My point is this is ridiculous to even be arguing about. I don’t personally care what goes on in WI but for Scott Walker to think or his supporters to think this is an issue is beyond ridiculous. I am a former academic but the average person on the street has no idea what tenure even is. Or if its good or bad. They just don’t care.
University administrations are the most irresponsible segment of the US economy. They have been the ones driving the completely insane inflation in the cost of an education (perhaps I should say “education,” since quality is on a steep decline). The debt with which millions of young naive Americans have foolishly saddled themselves has been abetted and enthusiastically endorsed by these self-serving arrogant fools.
Knowledge is not wisdom. Not by a long shot.
The figures I got from 2010 at the website show 3477 fulltime teaching faculty and 996 tenured faculty at Univ of WI. So that’s five years ago. I can’t find the stats for this year but I would say near 30% about right. At FIU it was very hard to get tenured. Most people didn’t stay that long.
I still think it would be fun to yank tenure from 996 pinhead professors .
Here is what you wrote: Living at home and going to community college can only take you so far.
My point was that living at home and going to community college got my daughters a very long way and saved a LOT of money. They did so well that we didn't have to shell out the big bucks.
It could happen. :-)
Jeb and Rand would be better as democrats.
” such as a bill in North Carolina that would mandate that faculty teach a set number of classes, he said”
The horror...the horror.
In many instances, that may be true. I've known quite a few who did very well at community college and were able to get full scholarships to prestigious universities. I remember one girl who got a full ride to both undergraduate and graduate school. Nominated to Phi Beta Kappa too.
When you understand what happened, you will understand what needs to be done.
In "the good ole days" of college education, there were no government loans or magic Pell grants. You got a loan from a bank. Scholarships were privately funded and mostly merit based. For every hundred professors on a campus, you had 3 or 4 administrators (paper pushers).
Then higher education became a right. Billions of government dollars started pouring in as guaranteed loans and grants. It didn't matter if you were failing as long as you registered enough hours. To make sure everything was filed correctly and to apply for every government penny, more administrators were hired. They now outnumber the professors, 2 to 1 in some schools.
Yes, hiring thousands of paper pusher made tuition go up but the real crime is all that needless money. Flood any market with currency that has no place to go, you get out of control inflation.
If there is $100 per student hour available and you have low tuition then suddenly make $1000 per hour available, then you have tuition that charges ten times as much.
Sounds like a good idea. Tenure is an academic concern and has no business in state law.
Obama.
BS.
Cruz got a Pell grant.
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