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8 things you didn’t know about the Confederate flag
PBS ^ | June 21, 2015 at 3:17 PM EDT 06/23/2015 | BY Daniel Costa-Roberts June 21, 2015 at 3:17 PM EDT

Posted on 06/23/2015 10:25:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/23/2015 4:41:14 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Following the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday in which a gunman shot and killed nine people attending bible study at a historic black church, the Confederate battle flag — also called the rebel flag, the southern cross and the Dixie flag — has been the subject of contentious debate.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; dixie; nikkihaley
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I believe that the author did not incorrectly use the conjunction "and."

His meaning was, I gather:

The poll also showed that African-Americans were more likely to perceive the flag negatively. The pool further showed that Democrats were more likely to perceive the flag negatively. Likewise, the poll showed that the highly educated were also more likely to perceive the flag negatively.

I see no suggestion that the three elements were "linked" so as to mean that one had to simultaneously be all three things (Negro, Democrat, and highly educated) to be more likely to perceive the flag negatively.

Regards,

21 posted on 06/23/2015 12:09:36 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Flags that are similar, but enough different no one complains-yet.

Confederate Battle Flag-—Arkansas state flag

The Stars and Bars-—The Lone Star flag of Texas

The Bonnie Blue Flag-—The Zavila flag of Texas

Next stop for the banners, Confederate Monuments.


22 posted on 06/23/2015 12:28:03 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SeekAndFind
The Confederate battle flag was never the official flag of the Confederacy.

90% of people both left and right don't know this.

It's not the Confederate flag. It is a battle flag.

23 posted on 06/23/2015 12:33:28 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: SeekAndFind
PBS left these out:


24 posted on 06/23/2015 1:00:49 PM PDT by QT3.14 (TransFreeper)
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To: SeekAndFind
So question...being a battle flag for an army not the national flag, how is it the flag of slavery?...

That army was not the leadership..

It fact state flags of that time would be more appropriate to ban....

Even the democratic party symbols and name would be more appropriate to ban as it was that political organization that let the souths slavery cause........

The Nazi flag it the Nazi party flag... not the German army flag..

25 posted on 06/23/2015 1:42:09 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: pfflier
>> It is a historic fact that the confederate battle flag exists. It cannot be "undone". <<

Very true. It is also a historic fact that the 1863 U.S. flag exists, and flown by union troops during the civil war. However, that flag is currently on display in museums, rather than being incorporated into the state flags of northern states or placed over the capitol grounds of northern states in the 1960s to showcase their "heritage".

26 posted on 06/23/2015 3:45:08 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

The fact is the media has converted the WORDS confederate flag into the words Crime Think.

you can say Christian, mother, father, marriage, good, evil, constitution, melting pot, merit, because the only way to state them is to say,

crime think.

no past, no future, only today is perfect.


27 posted on 06/23/2015 3:47:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
>> The fact is the media has converted the WORDS confederate flag into the words Crime Think. <<

Interestingly, all the freepers upset with the media associating the confederate flag with racism have no problems when the media decided the term "red state" (traditionally used for totaltarian communist regimes) would now be the codeword for "Republican majority region")

Many of them embraced the media's marching orders and even created websites like redstate.com to comply with the new directives from their overlords, and many balk when I tell them I refuse to use the term "red state" to refer to an area that votes Republican, or use the color "red" as a symbol for conservativism.

Let me know when southerns want to drop the media's "red state" talking points, and we can discuss dropping the media's "confederate" talking points.

Either you roll over and happily let the media define words for you, or you don't. Can't have it both ways.

28 posted on 06/23/2015 3:55:58 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Any iteration of the official US flag can be flown at any given time. So, the 1863 US flag, if chosen, can be displayed over the US capitol building or any state capitol or venue if desired.


29 posted on 06/23/2015 4:04:52 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier
>> the 1863 US flag, if chosen, can be displayed over the US capitol building or any state capitol or venue if desired. <<

However, no one in the north desires to do so, or claims they need a flag from the civil war era to be displayed by their state government in modern times in order to celebrate state pride or local heritage.

30 posted on 06/23/2015 4:12:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
Can't argue with that in general although I believe the 35 star flag is presented at re-enactments at Gettysburg. If I recall the national battlefied there also flys the 35 star flag periodically..

There is ample precident that previous US flag configuration are indeed flown to commemorate "state pride and local heritage".

A few examples:

The 13 star flag is and has been routinely flown as part of 4th of July celebrations including over US navy ships and national historical sites.

The 15 star "Star Spangled Banner" is routinely flown over Fort McHenry.

31 posted on 06/23/2015 4:33:36 PM PDT by pfflier
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