Posted on 06/25/2015 6:13:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
First the flag, now monuments honoring the Confederacy may be coming down.
Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake is pushing for the name of a park in the city to be changed. The park is named after Robert E. Lee and it is the latest push to erase history related to the Confederacy in the wake of the deadly church shooting in Charleston, South Carolina last week.
A member of the Baltimore chapter of the Sons of the Confederate Veterans said the hatred of the flag is an attempt to hide history.
Elliot Cummings told WBAL, "We are becoming like the Taliban. They are going after monuments, they are going after parks, they are going after anything that has the Confederate name associated with it. The battle flag is the flag of our soldiers; the flag of our great-great-grandfathers."
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Okay, so what about Arlington Cemetery? Is that to be renamed? Arlington was for many years the estate of Colonel Robert E. Lee.
All these republicans signing on with the democrats to ban the flag. Why now? Did 9 people getting killed by a punk with pictures holding the confederate flag but BURNING the American flag make them see the light? NO! They want to kill conservatism and they’re helping the liberals do it.
Never vote for another republican. By not voting for them we can get rid of the party.
The republican party had EXACTLY this in mind. Lincoln didn’t. Johnson carried out Lincoln’s wishes and the republicans impeached him for it. He didn’t punish the south enough.
Freddy Gray Park
A purge of all things “SOUTHERN” must start with all buildings with Robert KKK Byrd’s name.
Next it will be monuments and military forts named for “Southern” Generals!
Excuse me, it has already been proposed!
“Give an inch take a mile”
One should never post prior to coffee.
Because that name change in 1997 from the Bullets to the Wizards has been so remarkably successful in reducing gun violence in Baltimore.
[ Taking your cues from the Mao’s Cultural Revolution is big mistake. ]
I wonder how close we are to the purges?
The weasel left will probably wait till we are all disarmed, our only hope left is to goad them in a premature attack on US that is disastrous to THEM...
I half-jokingly commented yesterday that they will want to dynamite the confederate carving off the side of Stone Mountain in Georgia. It’s the size of two football fields so they may need to nuke it or allow the guys out of dobbins afb use it for training.
“A confederacy of dunces” book burning?
Historical ignorance.
Maybe abolishing public honors for Jefferson Davis is in order (as an old Penn man, we have a fight song that calls for hanging Jeff Davis), but even if every other Confederate figure is stripped of his public honors, Robert E. Lee should still be held in high honor for the way he comported himself at the end of the war and after.
When, following the Civil War, freed slaves began attending the same churches as their erstwhile masters, there was an incident at Lee’s formerly all-white Anglican parish in which a black man approached the rail for communion. The rest of the congregation held back, until General Lee went forward and knelt beside the black man. The parish was successfully integrated on that day (whether that came apart during the Jim Crow era I do not know).
In 1861 The Mayor of Baltimore and many other city officials and prominent citizens were imprisoned for the duration of the war because they supported the South.
Sheila Jackson Lee...please pick up the courtesy phone
Changing the park’s name will of course require a Federal grant of around $900 million to implement.
This is shameful. Not a word that people use much anymore, but that’s one word for what’s going on here.
No that was Stonewall Jackson.
Oh the irony. Maryland was full of southern sympathizers during the civil war. Anacostia was an entry port for slaves.
Maryland was a slave state. They were allowed to keep their slaves, an expedient to keep them in the union. The Emancipation Proclamation didn’t apply to them, just to states under rebellion. Maryland’s slaves weren’t officially freed until the 13th Amendment was ratified.
Quite a dark history that is unknown in the current revisionist world.
Reparations for slavery?
When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?
When a black man was Secretary of State??
When a black woman was Secretary of State?
When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??
When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????
When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. And until the recent allegations of sexual misconduct, men like Bill Cosby who, despite his support for Obama, spoke out against the cultural rot and violence among his black brethren causing the race pimps to call him either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie.)
And, how about Liberation Theology?
Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??
Give me a break!!
Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate and supported him in his run for the WH. And if Allen West or Dr. Carson (need some clarification of Dr. Carson’s position on the Second Amendment) go for it, they, too, have my support.
I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.
Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slavery now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)
The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:
They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!
Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by MUSLIM slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.
And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by – American BLACK MUSLIMS LISTEN UP!! — MUSLIMS), the Middle East and Asia today. How ironic that disgruntled American blacks are embracing a system that participated mightily in their initial bondage – and would, if Islam takes root here, probably put any who cling to their Christianity back INTO BONDAGE – or to the sword. In fact, as the majority of muslims consider black folks as “sub-human”, many of you black muzzies will get the axe.
95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.
And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?
And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave,” depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual or real slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here headed into a modern form of that servitude? But that – and the slave history of the Irish, the heritage of both myself and my wife – is a topic for another discussion.
The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90
Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a recitation of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378
A few more salient points on the subject:Until the US declared independence, the Colonies were REQUIRED by the King of England to embrace slavery.
The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.
A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.
Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.
It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.
And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!
At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared, “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”
And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy, William Henry Robinson, joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (re-upped twice) and fought on the Union side at Vicksburg, Jackson and elsewhere in the deep South then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great-great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.
Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.
Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”
Next problem!
Dick Bachert
AFTERWORD:
A brief review of the FACTS on the subject:
Until the US declared independence, we were required by the King of England to embrace slavery.
The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.
A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.
Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.
It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.
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