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Conservative Lawmakers and Faith Groups Seek Exemptions After Same-Sex Ruling
The New York Times ^ | June 26, 2015 | Erik Eckholm

Posted on 06/27/2015 9:33:55 AM PDT by EveningStar

Within hours of the Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage, an array of conservatives including the governors of Texas and Louisiana and religious groups called for stronger legal protections for those who want to avoid any involvement in same-sex marriage, like catering a gay wedding or providing school housing to gay couples, based on religious beliefs.

They demanded establishing clear religious exemptions from discrimination laws, tax penalties or other government regulations for individuals, businesses and religious-affiliated institutions wishing to avoid endorsing such marriages.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: exemptions; gaymarriage; samesexmarriage; scotus
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To: Don Corleone

I’ve posted before that the Catholic Church should conduct weddings “Braveheart style”; a simple ceremony away from the prying eyes of the state. People can opt for whatever legal arrangements they want to make (in terms of property, support payments, etc.).

A black co-worker twenty years ago described how her pastor (some type of Protestant) asked how many in the congregation were “living in sin”; when some “couples” stood up, he pronounced them married so they were no longer sinning. While absurd on its face, I appreciate the simplicity - these people were going to have no state involvement whatsoever in their “marriages”...


21 posted on 06/27/2015 11:22:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: MHGinTN

God Bless Gov. Abbott and Gov. Jindahl! I hope Haslam follows their lead, but I won’t hold my breath.


22 posted on 06/27/2015 11:57:33 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: barmag25

No. Americans don’t go hat in hand and ask for our rights to be granted like favors from the government. This bill, by its existence, would acknowledge that government has the authority to punish for thought crimes or religious beliefs. It would just carve out an exemption. It’s wrong.


23 posted on 06/27/2015 11:59:22 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: EveningStar

Start policies that say all couples to be married at this church must be members for a year. membership is defined by 10% tithe, 20 series of biblical marraige courses and vows celebration course prior to marriage.

Love them with the word of God, most will not go through it.

Remember: To live is Christ to die is gain.

marry them, but here are the terms.

Dont marry them....you may go to jail. Oh well bring your Bible. You may get a paid for law degree while in there and some time to reflect.

Either way keep the faith. God is good.


24 posted on 06/27/2015 12:17:26 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Texas4ever

If we change one iota of the process of marrying in churches to dodge the fudge-packers, they have won.

The only thing pastors need to do is whip out the calendar and say ‘Oh, yes I have an opening 17 months from now. If you wish to reserve, we will need a $1000.00 deposit’.


25 posted on 06/27/2015 12:33:49 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

honestly sir/maam

you lost credibility , when you refer to people, as “fudge-packers”. You see you lost the argument on your own. You reveal not the committment to what God or the church stands for, but your distain of homosexuals.


26 posted on 06/27/2015 12:46:32 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: Texas4ever

Great! You understand me.


27 posted on 06/27/2015 1:05:30 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Texas4ever

Great! You understand me.


28 posted on 06/27/2015 1:05:30 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Theodore R.

I don’t think they care about the constitution Theodore. The first amendment means whatever they want it to.


29 posted on 06/27/2015 1:07:06 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: EveningStar
Just say "NO".
30 posted on 06/27/2015 1:11:52 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: txhurl
unfortunately our separate views are always bundled together. I do not agree with the law, but I have no hate for those I feel are lost souls.

Because we are bundled together, Christians are called hypocrites and bigots.

31 posted on 06/27/2015 1:13:55 PM PDT by Texas4ever
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To: EveningStar

Wait to the corporate types that support this stuff begin asking what church you attend on their employment applications.


32 posted on 06/27/2015 1:15:02 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: abb

Put down Moslem or Jewish if asked.


33 posted on 06/27/2015 1:19:10 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Ok. Then somebody snitches on you when they see you going into a Southern Baptist church.

You’re fired.


34 posted on 06/27/2015 1:21:52 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

And how long before applications for government jobs (fed, state, local), and military service applications have such a questionnaire?


35 posted on 06/27/2015 2:11:42 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: EveningStar

We are witnessing the start of state endorsed religion. Any religion that doesn’t follow the government mandates on homosexuality, abortion or climate change will be hounded out of existence. Of course Islam will be exempted.


36 posted on 06/27/2015 3:50:40 PM PDT by The Great RJ (“Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher)
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To: grania

There is always Hope——with God. And that is why He is banned-—only the Chrisitan God is banned in the schools because it is only the Chrisitan Worldview that can save us-—and that is why the Marxists are trying to destroy the Christian Worldview by normalizing the evil vice of sodomy. It is to normalize pagan and muslim Worldview-—irrational Reality for the utopia of total slavery. Vice makes Slaves.

It is necessary that parents take back the minds of their children and NOT allow the State to brainwash them-—and get them OFF the TV-—have them READ-—READ and READ the Great Books. Hard Copies so tactile memory is necessary for integration of brain....NO SCREENS until after 13. (Waldorf policy that the elites use).

All brilliant people READ BOOKS and LOTS of them and parents need to discuss important issues with their children-———it integrates the brain and exercises it, gains great skills, and gives children a chance to reflect and think (TAKES QUIET). Individualism and “thinking outside the box” is essentially learned inside the loving family which gives Common Sense.

The Leftists abuse and kill their kids-—The Christians HAVE to take their children AWAY from the Brainwashers and return to ONLY pre-!930 books. We need to educate our OWN kids-—have the grandparents help or close Christian friends.

Leftists teach and promote hate and envy-—so does most TV shows which also force CONFORMITY in the EMOTIONS that the Sodomite homosexuals are modeling for your children to DESTROY Virtue formation.

There is no Freedom without Virtue-—it is impossible and Aristotle stated that ALL children need virtue habituated and practiced in childhood.
We should have schools like when Ben Franklin had-—after 8 year old and only until 12 and then REAL LIFE apprentices or whatever. 12 year olds in 1800s were way smarter than todays college graduates and they had Virtue and loyalty to family (little divorce and killing babies)..

The current school system is dehumanization ON PURPOSE to create Hitler Youth kids..... (artificial institution for mass conformity)—removal of children from family destroys individuality and autonomy -—who would turn in their parents for the State. All little children need to be read to and learn numbers and letters and reading at home with parents. It is what Lincoln did and Ben Franklin. Removing children from natural family before age 7 is dangerous and destroys the bonding and self-initiative and individualism and true self-esteem which ONLY comes from the family and mastery of Real Life skills.

I guarantee-—school curricula conststs of extremely powerful “operant conditioning” which can flip Good and Evil. WE HAVE to DESTROY their evil system which was set up for total destruction of “Free Will” (Fichte) in our children by evil, humanist, socialist John Dewey-—the father of “modern” education.


37 posted on 06/27/2015 8:55:54 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: EveningStar; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

38 posted on 06/29/2015 6:26:25 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: EveningStar

BTTT!


39 posted on 06/29/2015 6:47:02 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: EveningStar
They are not going to get them because the purpose of these rulings was to destroy Christian Institutions and along with them the Conservative philosophy.

Since a majority of voters on November 4, 2008, in their infinite wisdom, declared, via their votes, that they desired a muslim to rule over them, the Constitution has been regulated to the toiler paper rack. This action has been widely cheered on by the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party, a/k/a, the media. Recently, the Republican Party has joined in the affray.

40 posted on 06/29/2015 6:57:47 AM PDT by sport
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