Posted on 07/07/2015 7:20:01 AM PDT by wagglebee
well, bye.
You are right. We are not saved by having correct theology, but through Christ.
That said, those who support “same-sex marriage” seem to lack a fundamental understanding of the Christian faith. And may be CINOs rather than true followers of Christ ...
I guess in his world, some are more equal than others. It’s not enough to keep your sex practices quiet & private, you must FORCE others to accept your perversion by advocating for special rights & forcibly shutting down anyone who stands in your way.
I knew it was only a matter of time
What would you say of a self-proclaimed Christian, who advocates the worship of Molech? All Christians are sinners. Some of them support idolatry. Have I correctly understood your position?
lol....
Some merely ask for it, others ....
Sometimes, we need to unpack things, so folks can see the details involved in broad statements.
For example, it's clear to me that "We are saved through the Grace of Jesus Christ" but if I coupled that with "not saved by their stand on murder" people would want to know if I meant that murderers were free to murder.
This isn’t theology. It is morality.
Same-sex marriage is wrong, whether you are a Christian or not.
Possibly but some might respond that bombing civilian areas in WW2 was murder.
If we dismissed Salvation based on someone’s stand on current societal narratives, we’d be committing a great sin.
That is different than evaluating someone's claim of salvation based on their behavior.
I don't think that a murderer running around murdering has a claim to Christianity.
Nor do I think that a person involved in a gay marriage who steadfastly claims that that behavior is not sin, despite all historical Christian evidence to the contrary, is providing evidence of a claim to Christianity.
I would say they are not Christian based on their behavior COUPLED WITH their claims to have rejected God's evaluation of that behavior.
He went from being a squish on marriage to outright defending the queer agenda.
That boy just warn’t right in the head.
But we aren’t talking about people engaging in same-sex marriage
We are talking about people supporting it.
It's a trick of Satan to associate Christians with such things.
Christianity isn’t a mere matter of profession. It’s an ontological category. One does not cease to be Christian simply because of embarking on a great evil. Hitler and Stalin did not cease to be Christians.
I am surprised this verse was not mentioned... but it is a bit lengthy.
For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due....
who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
Romans 1:26-27, 32
I think you're saying that one CANNOT cease to be Christian, even if one loudly and publicly rejects every aspect of Christianity (as Hitler and Stalin did) ... thus even my hypothetical Molech worshiper, or the not-so-hypothetical Ba'al worshipers (who call themselves "gays") are still Christians. Sinful, apostate, and if finally unrepentant then damned to Hell ... but Christians still.
Is that a correct understanding of your position?
Same difference when it comes to calling God wrong.
Correct.
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