Posted on 07/22/2015 8:09:54 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg
(CNN)Anger over Sandra Bland's death in a Texas jail has boiled over after newly released video showed what happened at the traffic stop that led to her arrest.
Now, many question whether she should have been arrested at all.
The dashcam video shows Texas state Trooper Brian Encinia pulling Bland over July 10 for allegedly failing to use her turn signal. What started as normal conversation gets testy after Encinia asks her to put out her cigarette.
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Careful...the source you’re citing for the supposed editing is an opinion piece. DPS already stated publicly that the video was not altered, but due to its size, there were technical issues with uploading the video for public viewing. DPS has promised to correct the issue so wait and see if they do as promised before jumping to conspiracy theories.
I just saw it covered live on fox news...
Who is Ben Norton?
What does the video allegedly being edited have anything to do with what clearly occurred between the officer and the woman?
Did they edit in her disobeying his lawful order?
Don’t think they did.
Anytime you are ready to stop wallowing in stupidity will be fine with me.
To your points...
1. It was a valid stop for a valid traffic violation. Cops stop cars for that all the time because it is the law. Many accidents occur because people fail to signal.
2. Nobody ever said she was under the influence, but her history suggests drug possession
3. He didn’t ask ‘if’ she was irritated, but rather ‘why’ she was hostile. This was a valid question to understand her hostile behavior, which started from the beginning of the stop.
4. Both should have been more respectful and polite
5. In TX, asking her to put out the cig or get out the car are both appropriate. We don’t know the cop’s motivation yet, but he may have had a valid reason. He may not have. Either way, her refusals gave him a valid reason since her refusals were in violation of the law. She was still detained.
6. The physical altercation could be out of camera deliberately (we don’t know yet), but it could also be because she was fighting and resisting him. People that do that generally don’t stay in one place. They will pull away from the cop, forcing the cop to give chase. The cameras don’t move so if the suspect moves, the cop has little choice, but to move also. We don’t know the details yet
7. The cop was rude, which may be against policy, but not illegal. Her refusals were illegal, which led to her arrest so the fault lies with her.
The point is still the same. Wait for DPS to correct the issue as promised. If they don’t then we can jump to conclusions, but right now, that is too premature.
Update was the video might have been corrupted during upload.
Very possible.
American's don't like being treated with violent heavy handed tactics like they're the enemy for things like turn signal traffic infractions.
I'd say government and it's agents better figure this out while they still have time to do so.
She was in jail for 3 days. She threatened to call her lawyer on the video, why didn’t she call him and get out of jail? Spending 3 days in jail for a minor traffic infraction seems a bit much.
2 things.
1) I think an officer can tell her to put the cigarette out, masks odors like alcohol on the breath and also can be used as a weapon.
2) I hope you never get pulled over because it sounds like you're looking for trouble
LOL!!
She was in jail for assaulting a public servant.
Once she refused a lawful order, the cop ordered her out of the car. She refused that lawful order at first as well. The cop attempted to handcuff her for officer safety since she was hostile (another lawful action). By law, cuffing doesn’t always mean a person is under arrest yet. She decided to fight the cop, elbowing him and kicking him, so he fought her to the ground to cuff her. At that time, he officially arrested her for assaulting a public servant.
She was NOT arrested for a traffic violation. She was NOT arrested for resisting arrest. She WAS arrested for assault the police officer.
Local justice...
It's pretty simple really.
According to one story that was referencing the cop’s arrest report, he was not arresting her at the time he cuffed her. He stated that he was cuffing her for officer safety because she was hostile and threatening. Cuffing does not always signify arrest. Both TX law and SCOTUS have agreed that an officer can cuff a person, that is not under arrest, for the purpose of officer safety. Once the interaction is concluded then the cop would remove the cuffs and let her go.
Unfortunately, she decided to fight the handcuffing so when she was asking about why she was under arrest, she may not of actually been under arrest at that time. This may have been her ignorance of the law. The cop may have only decided to arrest her once she decided to fight him.
Her actual arrest charge was for ‘assault of a public servant’. She was not arrested for resisting arrest or refusing to follow a lawful order or for a traffic violation.
Whatever the case with the video is or is not, it doesn’t change the FACT that she disobeyed a lawful order, and therefore subjected herself to arrest which she then resisted.
So did her lawyer try to get her released, was that request refused?
Its the oldie but goodie "Why are you arresting me?" Because you are resisting arrest." "When did you start arresting me?" "When you resisted arrest."
Sometimes people that try and provoke police officers don't have a firm grasp on the law and then it backfires on them.
Here is another example of the news media and our president not supporting our police officers which causes people to give a cop an attitude.
I don’t know if she consulted a lawyer. I’ve heard her family was planning to bail her out the day after she died.
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