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Video of Sandra Bland's arrest ignites firestorm of reactions (Video at link)
CNN.com ^ | July 22, 2015 | Holly Yan and Dana Ford

Posted on 07/22/2015 8:09:54 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg

(CNN)Anger over Sandra Bland's death in a Texas jail has boiled over after newly released video showed what happened at the traffic stop that led to her arrest.

Now, many question whether she should have been arrested at all.

The dashcam video shows Texas state Trooper Brian Encinia pulling Bland over July 10 for allegedly failing to use her turn signal. What started as normal conversation gets testy after Encinia asks her to put out her cigarette.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: lawenforcement; sandrabland; standingarmy; texas
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To: dragnet2

She is the one who clearly wanted to escalate it, and that is exactly what she did when she started speaking to him in an angry manner.

And yes, he was the boss, and he had the authority. That’s the way it works.


301 posted on 07/22/2015 3:21:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: TXDuke
LEOs in TX treat everyone the same.

LOL! So when they pull over their commanding officers wife or mayor, they treat them all the same right?

Ya think anyone believes that?

303 posted on 07/22/2015 3:22:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kaila

Well, I am anyone who watched the video, and I don’t think he was arrogant.

I think she was arrogant.


304 posted on 07/22/2015 3:22:19 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37
She is the one who clearly wanted to escalate it

Who's supposed to be the professional here?

This was a non-threatening lone female traffic infraction stop. This became inordinately clear to this cop very quickly. He didn't handle it right. There was no discretion used here. This didn't need to happen. This cop wouldn't recognize common sense discretion if it hit him broadside on Interstate 10.

He clearly wanted to escalate this and that's exactly what he got.

He's supposed to be the professional who interacts with public, who is supposed to recognize what is a threat and what is not? No? He had no intention of doing any of that.

Raise the property taxes in Texas to pay up for this upcoming massive lawsuits....

Get your wallets out.

305 posted on 07/22/2015 3:24:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kaila

Because I’m a born in bred Texan, which is how I know. Yes, we, Texans hate illegal authority, but we also believe in respect for legal authority. This cop was exercising the legal authority granted to him by Texas and the lady thought she was privileged and didn’t need to abide by TX laws. We will side with the cop in that instance every time since he did NOT violate our laws and she did. We hate people that think they can come to Texas and defy our laws and are so arrogant that they believe they can be disrespectful to everyone here.

You don’t have to answer or you can lie, but any consequences to your decision are your own fault.


306 posted on 07/22/2015 3:27:11 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: TXDuke
LEOs in TX treat everyone the same.

So when they pull over their commanding officers wife or mayor, they treat them all the same right?

Ya think anyone believes that?

Where ya go?

307 posted on 07/22/2015 3:29:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It is easy to arm-chair quarterback the cop. At the time, her hostility made her a perceived threat to the cop. Also she had to do was comply with his lawful orders and it would be over. She chose to defy his authority and violate the law so she was wrong. That simple.


308 posted on 07/22/2015 3:30:02 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: chris37
The female is dead, because the female killed herself.

She should have handled things differently.

After giving careful consideration of your very in depth argument, I surrender my argument to you. You're right, this female who was without a doubt guilty of an illegal lane change was deserving of losing her life in jail.........

I bow down to you Chris and commend you for your debating prowess..........

309 posted on 07/22/2015 3:30:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: TheBigJ

Big talkers like you are why cops approach situations like this with such caution.

You apparently have no clue about the force continuum, but nice try. Once he ordered her out of the vehicle and she refused, her passive aggressiveness warranted the use of the taser per TX law and most department policies. That is well within the standard protocols for use of force guidelines.

Also, keep in mind, most cops out shoot and out train most civilians so I dare you to try and shoot a cop as your clearly implying. See how that works out for you!


310 posted on 07/22/2015 3:33:47 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: dragnet2
"Who's supposed to be the professional here?"

Your question is not relevant. What is a relevant question is who is the one who escalated it, and the answer to that question is her.

But I will answer your irrelevant question just for kicks and giggles. He was professional. I don't see anything wrong in what he did. She is the one who behaved like a complete ass.

Furthermore, I do not see why Texas municipalities or taxpayers should be on the hook for her decision to kill herself at all.

311 posted on 07/22/2015 3:34:42 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: TXDuke
This cop was exercising the legal authority granted to him by Texas

What's the limit of that so called authority TX or is there any? In this case, it's apparent there isn't any............

312 posted on 07/22/2015 3:34:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: dragnet2

I said they treat them all the same regardless of color...so yes, the cop may let his commanding officer go with a warning for a traffic violation, but the cop would do that for a white or black CO.


313 posted on 07/22/2015 3:35:06 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: dragnet2

He did not violate the law so her family can’t sue the State or the Department so no need to raise any taxes. Texas isn’t a p#ssy State that rewards criminals like this lady. Again, you apparently know nothing about TX.


314 posted on 07/22/2015 3:37:07 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: Hot Tabasco
You're right, this female who was without a doubt guilty of an illegal lane change was deserving of losing her life in jail.........

Apparently that is what she thought too, and so she killed herself.

Go figure.

315 posted on 07/22/2015 3:37:08 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Zhang Fei

When you stop them for minor traffic violations, people get irritated. Then, when you start on a arrogant power trip, people get angry.
If the police want the support of their city, they need to tone down the attitude, and quit stopping people for minor infractions.
A little detective work goes a long way in catching criminals. You don’t need to harrass the rest of the public while catching a few via minor traffic violations.


316 posted on 07/22/2015 3:37:40 PM PDT by kaila
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To: TXDuke
Her death is not related to the traffic stop. This cop had no access to her jail cell so the two are not related.

So you're saying she would have ended up found dead in that same jail cell anyway, when she was found there, even without the traffic stop.

...and this after upthread being called out on the phrase that her family was planning on paying the bail the day after she died.

It looks like you're getting pretty wound up here. How come?

317 posted on 07/22/2015 3:38:58 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The limit is spelled out in the law. Any order that doesn’t violate specified Civil Rights and doesn’t otherwise violate another State or Federal law is considered a lawful order. That is the limit of his authority. He did not ask her to do anything that is prohibited by law so his requests were lawful orders. She was required by law to comply even if she didn’t agree with it or like it.


318 posted on 07/22/2015 3:39:45 PM PDT by TXDuke
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To: chris37

She sounded like a lawyer on the initial discussion. He did not like that, and asked her why she was angry or hostile. She then answered in a reasonable tone of voice. He did not like her answer, wanted her to kiss his boots. He escalated.


319 posted on 07/22/2015 3:40:30 PM PDT by kaila
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To: grey_whiskers

He is wound up because he is a cop.


320 posted on 07/22/2015 3:40:57 PM PDT by kaila
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