Posted on 07/24/2015 11:17:28 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Next week, Senate Republicans could pass Obamacare repeal with a simple 51-vote majority as part of the long-term highway bill, according to Sen. Mike Lee.
The Utah Republican laid out the argument in a press release after party leaders set the sequencing of votes:
"The first Obamacare vote on Sunday will have a 60 vote threshold, and Democrats will likely block it," Lee continued. "But thanks to the sequencing of the votes we just locked in, Republicans will have the opportunity resurrect that Obamacare amendment later on in the process, and put it back before the Senate in a manner that only requires a simple-majority vote."
After cloture is reached on the Export-Import Bank amendment, senators will still be allowed to offer germane amendments to the highway bill, each of which would only require a simple-majority to pass. If the Chair rules that the Obamacare amendment is non-germane, Senate Rule 22 also allows any senator to appeal that ruling to the full Senate. At that point, a simple-majority of Senators would have the power to add the Obamacare repeal amendment to the highway bill.
If Lee is correct, then Democrats, in order to save Obamacare, would need to kill the highway bill — and thus their effort to restart the expired Export-Import Bank. (Unless, of course, Republicans bail Democrats out and sink the repeal efforts.)
FOR DAMN SURE!
Now if we can keep the ‘truth-ball’ rolling.
The Uniparty loves 0bamacare because of:
1) Corporatism: Helps their corporate donors get costs of healthcare off their books.
2) Power: Centralizes Government power over whether people even get to live.
First, I DO NOT favor obongo care. I do however favor some kind of health care reform. We just can’t tolerate a system that absorbs so much of the economy and that has so much waste and abuse.
I have what should be perfectly obvious question though... IF, and I do mean IF, obongo care is repealed, what takes its place? Do we just suddenly go back to the way things were?
What happens to rates? Do they stay at the same higher levels? Probably.
Certainly a good thing to go away would be all the invasive medical records. But, what happens now to all the forced investment made in this crap? Who pays for it? Simple answer, you and I do... the money has been spent.
And the list of questions goes on.
So the big question hanging in the air is... IF obongo care is repealed, what takes its place?
The way the congress works these days, way beyond the constitution, the senate should add language to the bill saying “The president does not have the power to veto this bill.”
See my post 84...
I have to wonder though how many of your IV antibiotic patients with dental infections are the result of poor personal preventive care? Actions have consequences and personal actions should have only personal consequences.
A simple but complete blood screen should not cost $1200... this is routine work... real people can’t afford that on a routine basis (annually)... the price is set by what the traffic will bear and not by a competitive market.
Medicine carries no obligation to realistic cost. It is simply not affordable for the average person and therefore an average health care policy is not affordable. Medicine is priced out of reach to society. The cost is not sustainable.
If the argument is made that factory medicine is too impersonal I would say compared to what? The impersonal, hardened, mistake ridden, cold institutional medicine we have now or some human level of competence, compassion and care? I’m not talking all facilities and physicians mind you but in the norm it feels cold and often incompetent to me.
Just about every time I come in touch with the medical system I am disappointed by something... even the small things it can’t get right. The larger the facility the worse it is. It does not inspire feelings of competence and comfort.
Empty posturing.
Clearly and probably accurately stated.
This coincides with what I have thought for some time now.
I fee secure in the knowledge that Mitch McConnell will bump noggins with Harry Reid and kill this deal.
I can understand you coming to that conclusion by mistake.
Do you really think I or anyone else on this forum backed Romney pre October of 2012?
If you can find one July of 2011 post here supporting Romney I’ll be very surprised.
If you can find any significant support of Romney in 2011 or 2012 that didn’t get severe push-back, I’ll be surprised.
And please, did Romney at any point sound 1/100th as promising as Trump has to this point?
LOL good post D1!
That sums it up quite well.
I don’t disagree with the part of Trump you are addressing.
The point I sought to address/make was Cruz’s fiery speech on the floor of the Senate. It had the Trump bombast in it.
He went after McConnell like Trump went after McCain, and he got the same results. He was covered in the press for it. It was a big deal.
He got results from it. Trump got results from his addressing of the Sanctuary City problem.
The VAST majority of the country absolutely hates Obamacare. If he vetoes a repeal, the Democrats are wandering in the wilderness for the next 40 years.
THAT ^^
No doubt! Let’s run solid conservatives against these guys and do the legwork needed to get them elected.
Jim, there are scant few, if any, Republicrats that already aren’t on the list to be primaried, you know?
I don’t see that at all, from anyone.
I don’t think there’s a person on this forum that doesn’t know about Trumps bombastic nature, his problematic stances, and his flirtation/support (or more) with the Left.
If he starts caving on issues, or adopting GOPe talking points, his support will vanish. There won’t be more than a very few people left who support him.
Cruz has been saying the right things for a long time. How much real earnest press did he get for it? Yes, you could find mention of it, but who really paid attention to that other than FReepers or other politicos?
All of a sudden he went to the floor of the Senate and called McConnell a liar. Had he been doing things like that before?
That is what I’m addressing. Trump took McCain to the woodshed and got big props for it. Cruz took McConnell to the woodshed and got big props for it.
It as covered in the media loudly (if you will). Non politicos saw Ted for the first time.
I give Ted credit for it, but it was a different side of Ted we hadn’t seen before. I give him credit for it.
I still think without Trump, that wouldn’t have happened.
Ted has had a long time to take McConnell to the woodshed, and plenty of reasons prior to this.
I agree Bert. Good call...
Couldn’t agree more...
Thanks TribalPrincess2Me...
Its amazing that the chinese hackers and others can get top secret info but no one can find obozos school info.
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