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Carly Fiorina Eviscerates Ghost of Trump, Wins Fox News JV Presidential Debate
Reason.com ^ | 8/6/2015 | Robby Soave

Posted on 08/07/2015 7:37:03 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: cripplecreek

As long as we are stuck with ten candidates, I’d like Carly and Ben on the big stage until the winnowing. She did very well presenting the failures of progressivism, contrasting with conservative positives. She’s whip smart, almost a rival to Cruz in that department. Ben showed the virtues of color blindness with his neurosurgeon comment, it was a brilliant take down of racialist nonsense and a demonstration of the horrifying politics of the bamster.

In this time we could use their talents in skewering the dems.


61 posted on 08/07/2015 8:20:25 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Catsrus

“I guess you ignore the photo of Carly at the Clinton Foundation posted above”

I posted the photo of iCarly at the CGI.


62 posted on 08/07/2015 8:20:34 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Catsrus

I get what you are saying, and you do have one or two valid points, but changing one’s opinion and changings one’s opinion on mega-issues as Fiorina pointed out are two entirely different things.

But we shouldn’t bring God into this...

... I was told this by more than on here at FR for bringing Jesus and communion into the equation when Trump said (concerning a massively important Christian participation like communion): “I drink my little wine ... and have my little cracker” as Hot Air (that is their title there for this article) and other news outlets posted.

The words he evoked sounded flippant and non-reverential to me.


63 posted on 08/07/2015 8:21:40 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: ifinnegan

A partner?

A “partner” who gets a call from Bill Clinton before running to get the GOP nom? LOL.

A partner who gave to Hillary’s Senate campaign? LOL.

And prove that she has given to the Clinton Foundation.


64 posted on 08/07/2015 8:23:54 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I also like her as a very good prospect for VP with Cruz/Fiorina on the GOP ticket.

From your lips to God's ear.

65 posted on 08/07/2015 8:24:43 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

She isn’t very good at paying her staff either - you should read the entire article. She left many unpaid for years, but managed to repay herself off the top. She is a phony, and the way she spews her answers, they sound rehearsed.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/21/us-usa-election-fiorina-idUSKBN0O60FV20150521


66 posted on 08/07/2015 8:28:24 AM PDT by Catsrus (a and)
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To: Catsrus

I guess perhaps we can compare that with Rand Paul’s statement that Trump buys politicians.

If Trump supporters like the idea that Trump can’t be bought, I imagine that voters in many states wouldn’t like the idea of their Congressmen and Congresswomen women being bought by Trump, if what Rand Paul said about Trump is true.

She was she bought by Univision?

Give concrete, specific proof with verifiable evidence from a conservative source.


67 posted on 08/07/2015 8:28:31 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; hoosiermama; MinuteGal; onyx

“My dear, it wasn’t Carly who was writing to checks to the Clintons and the Democrat Party.”

Oh no, my dear, Carly was just partnering and investing in and raising funds for Clinton’s Global Initiative. A much lessor crime, I’m sure. /s

Trump had to contribute to Dems in an all Dem city where he has his main businesses, and butter Hillary up (who was the NY State Senator after all at the time) if he wanted his businesses to survive. Banks, corporations, Wall Street, other financial corporations, all have to do the same or they will be ruled and regulated right out of business, or a phony lawsuit will be brought up against them via the Fed Judicial Department or by the States’ attornies (that is happening to Trump right now, a guy named Schneiderman, I believe, the NY State’s Attorney, over Trump’s University entities). Totally trumped up (pardon the pun) charges, pure politics, and Trump will win again in Court, but the Dems will go to any lengths with their dirty pool tactics.

Only a dumb dumb (as a Dem operative called Trump the other day) wouldn’t understand the necessity when in business of trying to remain neutral in a highly charged political environment. Especially when trying to not have your business ruined before your very eyes. Look how the Dems wield the political axe of the IRS against their political enemies for an example of what Dems do best. Look how Eric Holder and his Judicial Dept. was using the banks as their private piggy bank, imposing stiff fines on them one after the other. It’s how Dems roll.

There’s idealism and then there is reality. It’s a hard, tough business world out there with the Dems constantly nipping at your heels because they hate businesses (unless owned or run by Dem corporate elitists, like at GE). But I suppose you’ll never figure that out.


68 posted on 08/07/2015 8:29:18 AM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS!)
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To: dforest

They get all Constitutional Conservative at election time?

Do you hold Trump to that, or does he get the “evolved” pass on that.


69 posted on 08/07/2015 8:29:34 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You’re really head in the sand, fingers in the ears humming.

Her 501c was a partner of CGI. She participated in CGI events, as pictured.

Those events are fund raising and propaganda for the Clinton Foundation.


70 posted on 08/07/2015 8:32:39 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

But, but, Trump has “evolved.”

IOW, some in the GOP who once held every candidate in past elections and this one, too, to purity tests give Trump a pass on purity tests. They hold him to a lesser standard.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Giuliani knows Trump well.

Giuliani recently said that Trump is eloquent like Obama.


71 posted on 08/07/2015 8:33:13 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: flaglady47
Your excellent post should be read by everyone who's slobbering over Fiorino this morning. If I had to sit in board room meetings with this smooth-talking but uninteresting woman I'd be board-bored to death.

She was both snarky and snakey about Trump in her comments an hour or so ago this A.M. It was really funny watching her totally undo her pristine, holier-than-thou image of last night.

She's very robotic, is definitely not presidential material, and I'd be very surprised to see her rise from her present second-tier status. Bitter-clingers will continue to tout her, of course, because she is a necessary token.

Leni

72 posted on 08/07/2015 8:35:04 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: GreenHornet

Jeb, at best, IMHO, stayed even after last night;s debate. No fall, but no rise in the polls either.

But polls are pretty much meaningless right now, that is unless the poll shows Trump with a huge lead against his counterparts. /s.

Those showing Trump recently at 18-19% (three of them showed this while others showed him at 24-26%) are apparently no good but the ones that show him at 24-26% - some act as if those are the cat’s meow!


73 posted on 08/07/2015 8:37:31 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’d bet Giulianai knows Trump well.


74 posted on 08/07/2015 8:38:48 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: GreenHornet

” It’s obvious that Fox was trying to showcase Jeb Bush last night”.............


Not so obvious to me. I did not think Jeb was at all impressive last night. He seemed to be a typical politician who was mildly interested in running for President. He did not seem to have much animation with his delivery. If his last name were not BUSH, he would not have been up there in the first place.


75 posted on 08/07/2015 8:42:01 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: flaglady47
You should have heard her on the evil channel this morning (PMSNBC) slamming Trump some more. Carly is now written off, in my book, for consorting with the enemy.

Yes, MSNBC is the enemy and Trump has worked for it (NBC) for how long?

76 posted on 08/07/2015 8:44:03 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 9YearLurker

For the umpteenth time, how does that even remotely compare to Trump getting a call from the slickmiester (who has no love for the conservative base), before running for the GOP nom?

1.) Slickmeister encouraged him to get more involved in GOP politics, which the Washington Times, Hot Air and many other news outlets pointed out.

2.) Has she donated to the Clinton Foundation?

3.) Did she give to Hillary’s campaign?

4.) Has she waffled on her health care stance?

Those 3/4 (3-4) alone seem to put Trump waaaaay above her on the hypocrisy chart.


77 posted on 08/07/2015 8:44:52 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Catsrus

The Washington Times, Hot Air and many, many other news outlets reported on this.

BTW, did she give money to Hillary’s campaign?

Did she give money to the Clinton Foundation? Prove this if you can.

Did she get a call from slickmeister before deciding to run for the GOP nomination?


78 posted on 08/07/2015 8:48:27 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Gumdrop
Not so obvious to me. I did not think Jeb was at all impressive last night. He seemed to be a typical politician who was mildly interested in running for President. He did not seem to have much animation with his delivery. If his last name were not BUSH, he would not have been up there in the first place.

I agree with your assessment of Bush's performance. It's just my opinion that the moderators were trying their best to make him look good, but, despite this, he turned in a lackluster performance.

79 posted on 08/07/2015 8:49:01 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: flaglady47

I love the extent some apologists will go for Trump.

But as Trump himself explained at the debate, he got a wedding invitation from the Clintons as the result of his contributions.

Further, my dear, according to Investor’s Business Daily 08/5/2015

“In fact, his (Trump’s) $34,000.00 gift to Democratic campaign committees in the 2006 election cycle helped put Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi in power.”

Explain that one. I’m sick of the apologies. If it were anyone other than Trump you wouldn’t be making up apologies for him.


80 posted on 08/07/2015 8:50:27 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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