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If you are born here you are a citizen. People are saying that is what the Constitution says. Professor Erler and Levin say this is simply not true. This is what Trump is talking about and why he thinks he can get rid of birthright citizenship!
1 posted on 08/19/2015 6:41:19 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: GilGil

This is not new, even Levin has said this for a decade.


2 posted on 08/19/2015 6:43:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: GilGil; holdonnow

Thanks Mark (for all that you do).


3 posted on 08/19/2015 6:44:03 PM PDT by PGalt
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The details of how to repeal are irrelevant. IF something is created by man it can most certainly be altered, or eliminated by man. We see it happening before our very eyes.

The point is get ‘er done whatever it takes. It’s for the children.


4 posted on 08/19/2015 6:49:19 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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Low Info voters: where’s the Cheetos?


5 posted on 08/19/2015 6:49:28 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: GilGil

From the Article:

” It is difficult to imagine that the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment intended to confer the boon of citizenship on the children of illegal aliens when they explicitly denied that boon to Indians who had been born in the United States.

Those who defy the laws of the U.S. should not be allowed to confer such an advantage on their children. This would not be visiting the sins of the parents on the children, as is often claimed, since the children of illegal aliens born in the U.S. would not be denied anything to which they otherwise would have a right. Their allegiance should follow that of their parents during their minority.

A nation that cannot determine who becomes citizens or believes that it must allow the children of those who defy its laws to become citizens is no longer a sovereign nation.

No one is advocating that those who have been granted birthright citizenship be stripped of their citizenship. Equal protection considerations would counsel that citizenship once granted is vested and cannot be revoked; this, I believe, is eminently just.”


6 posted on 08/19/2015 6:50:11 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: GilGil; holdonnow

Listened...great segment.


9 posted on 08/19/2015 6:53:10 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: GilGil

It doesn’t need to be repealed. It isn’t in the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights. It’s not there. It was created by a bunch of buffoons in black robes while they were hittin’ da happy smoke.


10 posted on 08/19/2015 6:53:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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To: GilGil

You have to get it past the GOPe first.


11 posted on 08/19/2015 6:53:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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I need to see the caveats before I jump on this bandwagon.

I agree 100%, children born in the U.S to non-citizens are not citizens.

Children born to citizen parents?
Children born to citizen father, non-citizen mother?
Children born to citizen mother, non-citizen father?
Children born to citizen mother with no father known?
Children born to non-citizen mother with no father known?

Now replace “children born to” with “children born out of country to”. Ignore the gimmies.


12 posted on 08/19/2015 6:55:21 PM PDT by Fhios (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion. -- Bobby Jindal)
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Congress has the broadest power under the Constitution

Bwahahaha! Not under the Al Capone Administration it doesn't.

14 posted on 08/19/2015 6:56:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bush [the 90s rock band] for POTUS 2016!!!)
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This kind of talk is downright stupid. It detracts from a solution to the real problem. That problem is the unrestrained and huge flow of illegal immigrants across the southern border. The solution is a big border fence.

But every word wasted in these futile and asinine attacks against birthright citizenship makes it less likely that the fence will ever get built.


15 posted on 08/19/2015 6:58:02 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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Mark Levin will be on Hannity tonight (now) to discuss the anchor baby issue.


16 posted on 08/19/2015 6:59:25 PM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOP)
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Here is the applicable section of the 14th Amendment:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

Note the bit about “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof ...”. Do you really believe this refers to your mere presence in the U.S.? That's what current law tells us. But, if so, why is the jurisdiction phrase there? Leave it out and you get the same rule.

People coming across the border illegally are subject to our laws but not to our jurisdiction. They are subject to the jurisdiction of Mexico or Guatemala or wherever they came from. That is, I believe, Trumps position and mine as well.

26 posted on 08/19/2015 7:13:42 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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“If you are born here you are a citizen.”

Nope. Not subject to our jurisdiction. Read the 14th Amendment. It was not meant as a means to invade the USA.


57 posted on 08/19/2015 7:51:34 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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They are not reading the Constitution. They are taking words are out of context. “Congress shall have the right to determine NATURALIZATION!!! Indians were “born” here. The Congress first said they were not citizens!! Then later in history , the Congress voted that they were!! Congress decides!! Let’s vote to see if Boehner/ McConnel/ Cornyn/ Corker/Rubio will make new anchor babies CITIZENS!!! Bring it on!!


60 posted on 08/19/2015 7:54:29 PM PDT by WENDLE ( Hillary is a criminal.She jeopardized national security. Trump will indict her!!)
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Despite O’Reilly’s rant with Andrea Tanteros (re INS v. RIOS-PINEDA, (1985), No. 83-2032, Argued: March 20, 1985 Decided: May 13, 1985. [See more at: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/471/444.html#sthash.8HG5TMl9.dpuf]), Ann Coulter’s got another take: http://humanevents.com/2010/08/04/justice-brennans-footnote-gave-us-anchor-babies/

I’m still trying to figure out what Rios-Pineda’s got to do with birthright citizenship, other than the off-hand “who is a U. S. citizen” referencing a child in one of the summaries.


70 posted on 08/19/2015 8:30:10 PM PDT by Mach9
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I saw O’Reilly saying that the 14th amendment mandates birthright citizenship for illegal aliens’ babies. He shouted louder than Trump, and pointed with his finger, so he must be right.


72 posted on 08/19/2015 10:49:57 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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“Birthright citizenship” of babies born by illegal aliens in the U.S. is as phony as (the wall of) “separation of church and state”.


73 posted on 08/19/2015 11:06:02 PM PDT by windsorknot
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Bill O on his Fox show tonight made fun of Mark.....even imitated his voice....very rude and very wrong.


75 posted on 08/19/2015 11:59:20 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: GilGil

In the absence of direction from congress, SCOTUS ruled.

The constitution delegates citizenship rules to congress.

Therefore, if congress creates a law, SCOTUS is overruled.

At least that is the way it SHOULD be.


95 posted on 08/20/2015 10:55:10 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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