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Schumer May Save the Democratic Party
Politico ^ | 08/23/2015 | PATRICK H. CADDELL and DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN

Posted on 08/23/2015 3:56:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Schumeister is not lifting a finger to scuttle the agreement.


21 posted on 08/23/2015 4:33:07 PM PDT by AU72
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To: mrsmith
This is from Caddell and Schoen, almost the last two surviving honest men in the Democratic Party. I think it should be seen as their honest opinion.

I'm always suspicious of Schumer's motives, but he cares more for the survival of the Jews in Israel than he does for the short-term political objectives of the Obama administration.

I hope the authors are right about the long-term damage to the Democrats from the agreement...which pales in comparison to the long-term damage to Iran's enemies once it can deliver its nukes to targets.

22 posted on 08/23/2015 4:33:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Save?

The 'Rats are going to H377.

23 posted on 08/23/2015 4:38:06 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Actually African-Americans have good reason to fear that the Obama/Kerry/Clinton iran nuclear agreement will pass by virtue of Obama’s veto!!! Iranians are not Arabs......but they are Persians. And......Persians....putting it mildly have absolutely no use for any Christians, especially African & African-American Chrstians!!! You folks figure out the rest!!! The handwriting is on the wall for all to see and understand. POTUS, Obama, once again has thrown African-Americans under the bus!!! poor sould cannot see the forest for the trees!!!


24 posted on 08/23/2015 4:40:50 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party!!!)
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To: Paladin2

Schmucky ain’t saving anything except his precious NY senate seat. Its only the anger from his jewish constituents that’s made his decision. Otherwise he would kiss Bammy’s butt as usual.


25 posted on 08/23/2015 4:44:43 PM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Nonetheless, Schumer’s vote isn’t needed so it’s appropriately “Kabuki”.
There might be some worry for Schumer that opposing Obama will hurt him with “black” voters. Can’t see it myself but he, no doubt, keeps a close eye on that aspect.


26 posted on 08/23/2015 4:46:21 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think Pat and Doug are dreaming.

The anti-Semites are no longer afraid to proudly stand tall in the Democrat Party. These Jew Haters likewise hate Christianity, and they’re gaining strength in the party of slavery, segregation and submission to central planning.

Liberal fascists hate the Judeo-Christian world view. With a passion.


27 posted on 08/23/2015 4:48:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Pollutico doing its part to send a message to Schmuckie to save the RAT party.


28 posted on 08/23/2015 4:51:30 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: wetgundog

I called one of Schumer’s offices and explained why I thought if the deal with Iran went through, NYC would get wiped. The staffer who answered the phone was cordial and receptive. I expressed my appreciation for Schumer’s stand.

The staffer for Manchin, one of my senators, was anything but cordial.


29 posted on 08/23/2015 4:59:26 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Paladin2

...The GOPee are for the deal...
Another reason why Trump is growing.
And, the GOPe, its candidates, liberals, pundits, the MSM,
much of Fox, and 5 or so regular detractors posting here
haven’t a clue why.


30 posted on 08/23/2015 5:13:31 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

...for the glory of communism?


31 posted on 08/23/2015 5:29:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tflabo

“Schmucky ain’t saving anything except his precious NY senate seat. Its only the anger from his jewish constituents that’s made his decision. Otherwise he would kiss Bammy’s butt as usual.”

If he doesn’t stop this thing he isn’t going to have a senate seat or constituents . You have to be just plain stupid to think if Iran has a bomb that they will not choose the same exact targets that the 9/11 attackers did .

Iran is not shopping for long range missiles to nuke Israel . To nuke Israel they DO NOT NEED long range anything .

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you want to cost the most financial devastation in America you attack NYC and you kill the markets and you hit DC to cause more chaos .


32 posted on 08/23/2015 5:33:43 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: wetgundog
This agreement is BAD, BAD. Kerry’s and Obama’s INCOMPETENCE shows.

Please stop calling Obama incompetent; you only give him a pass as though his intent is for what is best for the country, but he is merely a boob.

We all know that is not the case. What he does, he does intentionally, therefore he is highly competent at undermining the USA.
33 posted on 08/23/2015 5:35:22 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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Please stop calling Obama incompetent; you only give him a pass.

OK, you are right.


34 posted on 08/23/2015 5:39:03 PM PDT by wetgundog ("Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice" -AuH2O)
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To: Red in Blue PA
What he does, he does intentionally, therefore he is highly competent at undermining the USA.

Red, I totally agree with you. I've said that also for sometime now and have been told by the idjits that I'm being racist.

I'm still surprised at the number of people do NOT SEE the "INTENTIONAL" aspect of his actions.

We have a Muslim presidink running interference for his Muslim brothers globally, while he directly dismantles the America we LOVE.

It can't be anything but INTENTIONAL.

35 posted on 08/23/2015 6:07:30 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We must remember the lessons of Clintonian triangulation.

Schemer may be strident and angrily against this until the last moment, when he will suddenly see the light, or recognize some previously unspoken nuance, and thus come around to Obama’s way.

If this scenario comes to pass, make no mistake: There is no change on Schumer’s part, and no arm twisting from Obama. This was always the way it was meant to play out.

Then it will be ok for all Democrats to fall in line.

Not saying it’s going to happen this way, but be ready for it.


36 posted on 08/23/2015 7:19:16 PM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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Is it too late for the Senate to decide this deal IS a treaty and it reaches down and begins hearings on ratification?
37 posted on 08/23/2015 7:23:35 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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Absolutely.


38 posted on 08/23/2015 7:25:32 PM PDT by uncitizen (i hate gutless people, too.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Some Senator needs to do the following. Cruz is the first I'd think of, but if chances for success would be greater with a non-presidential candidate then Cotton would be most appropriate to take the point. I may be off of the details, but I'm pretty sure something like this is possible with many fewer votes than the 2/3 Obama claims are needed to stop him:

1) Ask the chair to rule whether the agreement, and how Obama has presented it, fits the standards set forth in the Corker bill or is instead really a Treaty requiring 2/3 of Senators but none of the House.

2) If Biden holds the chair and rules "Corker, not Treaty" or if some GOPe holds it and is willing to so rule, then appeal that ruling to the Senate as a whole. If 51 vote the agreement is really a treaty (a 50-50 tie would be broken against us by Biden) then they should next move for an immediate vote on this Treaty and vote it down. At that point you have Obama saying its an executive agreement and the Senate saying its a treaty GIven that ratifying Treaties is purely a Senate power and that former Senator Dungheap (D-IAI) got then Chief Justice Renhquist to rule during Clinton's impeachment "trial" that the Senate was solely responsible for its own procedures we should be able to win, or at least long delay the dispute in the courts. Burn Obama's clock, not ours. The only question is whether enough enough RINOs and allegedly pro-Isreal Rats would go along to reach 51 votes. At worst it better delineates their true status, a Cruzian technique. At best the GOPe would recognize it as a way to let Corker save face, pretending the now excessively unpopular agreement was not what he'd envisioned originally.

39 posted on 08/23/2015 7:34:48 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change)
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To: Lera
... hit DC to cause more chaos .

The way things are going that might not be such a bad thing. <ba dum tshssshhh>

40 posted on 08/23/2015 7:58:06 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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