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If Trump was running as a Democrat, would you still support him? (Vanity)
08/28/2015 | R2

Posted on 08/28/2015 8:59:19 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

I imagine Trump is kicking himself now for sliding into the crowded Republican race instead of the Democratic race. But who knew a few months ago that Hillary would implode leaving the Democratic race with NOBODY as a possible?

Sure Trump is enjoying a double digit percentage lead in the Repub polls, but imagine his ratings (75%? 85%?) if he ran basically unopposed as a Democrat?


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To: GOPJ

Democrats are filthy liars... Trump’s too smart to run with a party of criminals.

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He ran with them and supported their candidates for most of the last 15 years. What’s changed now?


201 posted on 08/28/2015 12:24:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Why is he kicking himself? Do you think his numbers would be as high if he were running as a Democrat? What makes you think that?


202 posted on 08/28/2015 12:26:19 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: dmz

Rush discussed this earlier.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/america-is-so-in-play-1440715262


203 posted on 08/28/2015 12:28:08 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Responsibility2nd

In case my question got lost in the shuffle:

‘Please quote your candidate’s most strongly worded condemnation of the devastation wrought be the invading horde, and his most passionate commitment to a wall.’


204 posted on 08/28/2015 12:32:02 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Personal Responsibility
When I say “laugh off the stage” I mean more like “they’d bash him all day, every day, in every newspaper, media outlet, and online forum until he left the political arena”

The enemdia is doing just that now. With Trump running as a Repub. Trump likes it. It only makes him stronger as his polling numbers increase. I believe the same thing would happen if Trump ran as a Dem.

 

If you don’t think a democrat running on a “build the wall / deport the illegals” platform would get excoriated every minute of every day, you’re wrong.

Democrat or Republican. The excoriation is intense as Trump is leading the way here. Trump is not my boy here, but I'll give him credit for starting this and other necessary conversations.

205 posted on 08/28/2015 12:33:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: itsahoot

Ideologically Cruz is closer to me than any other candidate, but he doesn’t have the “it” factor.. If you had him vs hillary since neither one of them have the it factor, you might be able to pull off a win... but in an election with someone who is clearly a natural leader as Trump is showing he is... the rest of the field on both sides of the aisle just look like tired old has beens.

Time will tell, but whether I like it or not, at present what I see sure looks like its Trump’s to lose.


206 posted on 08/28/2015 12:33:53 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Fantasywriter
Believe liberal Donald Trump's campaign promises if you choose. But they are just promises made by a liberal.

Can you name another liberal you trust? If not, why do you trust liberal Donald Trump?

207 posted on 08/28/2015 12:33:59 PM PDT by South40 (Falling for Trump's rhetoric while ignoring his liberal past is incredibly foolish)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The question makes no sense.

If my dog suddenly identified itself as a rattlesnake, would I still feed it?

Ginger or Maryann? Let’s answer that question before we answer your question.


208 posted on 08/28/2015 12:35:35 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RitaOK

Thanks Rita. I keep going back to this question....

If someone had told you 5 years ago that a liberal democrat would run for president as a conservative republican AND be ahead by double digit leads, would you believe that?

Strange times indeed.


209 posted on 08/28/2015 12:35:56 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: DoughtyOne

If all the people saying “I like Cruz, but Cruz can’t win” would just vote for him, he’d win.


210 posted on 08/28/2015 12:36:15 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Robert DeLong
That doesn't ease my mind at all. I don't trust liberals and Trump is a liberal.

And it is not my opinion that he is a liberal, he has a long history to prove it.

1. Trump has been a liberal most of his adult life, registering as a Republican as recently as 2009.

2. Trump has contributed generously to some of the most far left democrats in politics including Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Charles Schumer (D-NY), Terry McAuliffe (D-VA) Anthony Weiner (D-NY), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Harry Reid (D-NV), Governor Ed Rendell (D-PA), California state attorney general Kamala Harris (D-CA), Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

3. Trump is a crony capitalist, explaining his large contributions to democrats as a necessary tool to conducting business. He apparently believes buying the votes of politicians is an acceptable way of doing business. That, by definition is political corruption. But liberal Donald Trump supports it.

4. Trump supported the ban on "assault weapons", even though there is no such thing as an "assault weapon". Far left anti-gun democrats wanted to ban gun ownership completely. Unable to accomplish that goal they created the term "assault weapon" and applied their own definition for the term so they could ban guns based solely on cosmetic appearances. Being the gullible liberal that he is, Trump both fell for the scheme and supported the ban.

5. As recently as 2013 Trump praised former NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg for "Putting his money where his mouth is" in trying to take guns from law-abiding citizens. Michael Bloomberg has spent tens of millions in his quest to disarm America and Donald Trump praised him for it.

6. Trump has been pro-abortion until which time he flirted with running for president. He now claims he no longer is. Believe his campaign rhetoric if you will, but his history says otherwise.

7. While he may claim to be an opponent of Obamacare, Trump is an advocate of single-payer socialized healthcare similar to what is in place in Canada. Yes, Trump supports the worst version of socialized healthcare. He has said, "The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing. While we work out details of a new single-payer plan, there are a number of ways to make the health care system now in place work more efficiently."

8. Trump believes in using eminent domain for the taking of private property from US citizens for his personal gain. He proved this when he tried exploiting such laws to take elderly widow Vera Coking's property so he could build a parking lot for limousines. Fortunately, the widow prevailed. He also said he supported the United States Supreme Court's Kelo decision which resulted in the taking of private land from a private party so Pfizer Pharmaceuticals could build a plant. That family lost their land and to date nothing has been built on it. It should be noted that conservatives Rehnquist, Thomas and Scalia all voted against this rotten scheme. Liberals on the court supported it, as did liberal Donald Trump.

9. Trump has said the economy does better under democrat control (we're $18 trillion in debt and climbing thanks to the dems). He also said George W. Bush was the worst president this country has ever had. Worse than the lying rapist Bill Clinton? In the mind of Donald Trump, that answer is YES because he has also said of the past four presidents, Bill Clinton was his favorite.

10. As of 2009, Donald Trump is a registered Republican. But in an interview with CNN's Wolfe Blitzer, Trump said, "I probably identify more as a democrat." His record above lends credence to that comment. You are supporting and putting your trust in a liberal.

211 posted on 08/28/2015 12:37:07 PM PDT by South40 (Falling for Trump's rhetoric while ignoring his liberal past is incredibly foolish)
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To: Robert DeLong

Because there are no democrats in the Democratic field.

Donald is kicking butt in a crowded republican contest. Imagine how well he’d do if he had NO serious party challengers.


212 posted on 08/28/2015 12:38:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: South40

Can you name a promise made by Republican’s that have been kept?

Token obamacare votes they know will be vetoed are not promises kept.

THe Iran deal should be DOA, ratificiation by a republican controlled congress should be impossible, yet here we are...

I can go on and on... The political class on both sides of the aisle has betrayed the american people, and its blindingly obvious to anyone watching, and that is part of the reason Trump is growing by leaps and bounds, much to the chagrin of the GOPe and the DNC...

Planned Parenthood should be defunded, but we can’t even get a vote through both houses even if Obama would veto it. etc etc etc...

So stop this promises kept nonsense, neither party has kept a promise to the American people in a long long time. We live in an Oligarchy.


213 posted on 08/28/2015 12:38:54 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Responsibility2nd
Trump gave money to everyone... the world knows how easy it is to buy American politicians..

Do you know why?

Because Congress passed laws to make taking bribes legal... like buying thousands of books written by a congressmen - or giving to a 'foundation' that allows the congressman to 'do good' while flying around the world staying in first class accommodations for free...

Or giving 'speeches' to empty rooms for a few hundred thousand dollars... for 43 minutes time. If that's not a bribe nothing is. Can you imagine the outrage if the wife of the police chief gave a 'speech' to drug lords for 43 minutes - collected a half million - and the police chief let 20 thugs out of prison?

We would all know that was a bribe. We know the other is too.

Trump gave money to all of 'em. Everyone buys the people we elect except the citizens. We GIVE TO THEM - we get NOTHING IN RETURN. The American people are conned every year by the so called 'elites' - or 'the crooks' as I tend tot think of them.

Also, many of us - myself included - we're democrats years ago. How did Winston Churchill express it? Not a heart if not liberal when young... not a brain if not conservative when older?

I flat out don't care what Trump was in the past. Do you Responsibility 2nd think of me as 'liberal' because I was a democrat years ago? Do you think I'm 'not as conservative' as you?

214 posted on 08/28/2015 12:40:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Fantasywriter

Sorry, I was at lunch when that question came in.

The only answer I’ll give you in the interest of time is Ted Cruz.

His comments, his statements, his positions to the wall are all that is needed to be said.


215 posted on 08/28/2015 12:40:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: HamiltonJay

I’m not defending the GOP, they lie. But unlike many, I’m not willing to throw my support behind a lifelong liberal because they did.


216 posted on 08/28/2015 12:41:09 PM PDT by South40 (Falling for Trump's rhetoric while ignoring his liberal past is incredibly foolish)
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To: South40

Please re-read my questions. You keep giving non-answers, while avoiding the simple, straightforward questions I actually asked.

Is there a candidate that you trust, who has articulated the full magnitude of the devastation the illegal horde is wreaking on the US people and the country as a whole? Has that candidate made an irrevocable commitment to build a wall?

If so, I’d like to read those quotes.


217 posted on 08/28/2015 12:41:16 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t support him either way. I think he is a carny. It’s easy to take positions when you have never voted on anything.


218 posted on 08/28/2015 12:42:13 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

The question makes no sense.

It made perfect sense to the 98% of FReepers who answered it.

It’s not so hard to imagine a former dem running as a dem now, is it?


219 posted on 08/28/2015 12:42:52 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: GOPJ

I have a little experience in this area.

Developers have to be non-partisan. This is because both the Ds and Rs will have their hands out, and they have to be paid or you don’t get what you need to start turning dirt.

It is that simple, and that corrupt. If you don’t pay, all the little city forums will study your question until the next ice age, and your project will die.

This is what everyone discounts about the guy. Trump could sicken us to the point of rebellion by telling us what had to be done in order to get stuff built over the course of his career. He could make millions selling books about it that would make Clancy spin in his grave.

Maybe Trump realizes it is now broken past the point where before you did what you had to in order to get stuff done. Before, stuff got done.

Now, the only stuff getting done is stuff that is doomed to fail. Solyndra type stuff.

Even Tesla. Great car. Took billions in taxpayer funded money to make nominally viable. Much of that cash goes back into politicians pockets.

Today, Government is a full partner in your business. We used to talk about how the PLA owned 51% of any business you moved over to China, and how commie that was.

We’re doing that here. We’ve adopted that model here.

Either Trump is going to fix it, or we are going to wipe it all out, and I suspect he knows that’s what its coming to.


220 posted on 08/28/2015 12:47:12 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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