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Informative. Some. As far as the bending over issue, some places, you need to be careful that your weapon doesn't "print" on the cover shirt or whatever. Wind blowing and causing your shirt to float up can also be an issue in some locations. And, I agree, carrying doesn't make you a hero. May change your decision making process in certain situations as well. Be careful out there.
1 posted on 08/30/2015 9:35:07 AM PDT by rktman
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I do not worry about “printing”. It’s gonna happen. The couple of times I have been asked, I replied that it was my colostomy bag and asked them if they wanted to see.


2 posted on 08/30/2015 9:41:36 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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I love the Sticky holster, carrying has never been so comfortable.
http://www.stickyholsters.com/


3 posted on 08/30/2015 9:42:46 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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I was out bicycling this morning on a local cycling trail and encountered a fellow cyclist going the other way who clearly had a holstered autoloader. He may have been a LEO but I just saw the “GUN” ...

BOY, was I upset! Took me about an added 15 seconds to make it home - WOW!


5 posted on 08/30/2015 9:44:45 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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And, I agree, carrying doesn't make you a hero.

And at the least you're probably going to lose your favorite pistol for some time.

6 posted on 08/30/2015 9:46:38 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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The current trend of casual “cargo pants” for everyday wear presents a unique opportunity. I wear 511 brand “tactical pants” at work with lots of pockets to hold the gadgets I need. The side pockets on these pants are huge and will easily conceal a Ruger LCR 5 shot .38SPL in a good pocket holster. Belt holsters work well if you are long and lean with wide shoulders. I have learned that for a squatty body like me a pocket full of .38 is just the ticket. In 5 years of using this carry method I have never been busted - even by people who knew I was carrying - somewhere ;-)


7 posted on 08/30/2015 9:51:36 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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I’ve come to appreciate a well made belt, that’s for sure.

L


8 posted on 08/30/2015 9:57:14 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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I’m a traveling salesman, and have to dress in a certain manner (plus, it’s really, really hot where I live and work), so it’s pocket carry for me. A Ruger LCP in a Tagua holster fits the bill nicely. If anybody has ever noticed it, noone has said anything.


10 posted on 08/30/2015 9:59:43 AM PDT by TexasBarak (I aim to misbehave!)
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Kahr Pm9 Thumb Tab Pocket Holster

11 posted on 08/30/2015 10:01:51 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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Guns are not my thing. I bought a .40 cal Taurus semi a few years ago but I never even fired it once or took a class.
Just don’t have the desire..I should just kick myself in the butt and get with it . Anybody give me some good advice?


15 posted on 08/30/2015 10:04:32 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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Well I can’t find anything in his 10 points to criticize. I must be slipping. :-)


16 posted on 08/30/2015 10:05:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I need to find a better belt for OWB carry, I’ll check out the author’s suggestion.


21 posted on 08/30/2015 10:13:24 AM PDT by PROCON (FReeping on CRUZ Control)
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Thanks, bfl.


26 posted on 08/30/2015 10:22:16 AM PDT by frog in a pot (What if a previously D liberal candidate promised all the things we wanted to hear from the R's?)
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Over the years I’ve gotten a pretty good handle on the proper combination of clothing to keep my concealed concealed. I still struggle with #4 - a “good” holster. Holster manufacturers love me because I buy their stuff and then reject it (and turn around and buy something else).

Having lost one sidearm in the middle of a busy street during a foot chase I’m cautious (maybe even paranoid) about having a holster that actually secures the weapon. Now it’s easy to get one that emphasizes secure containment - but they all come at the expense of concealment.

I have yet to find the happy medium.


35 posted on 08/30/2015 10:50:50 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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5 rules of a gun fight:

1) gun beats no gun
- if you left your gun home because of X, you have no gun
- if your gun jams and you cant clear it, you have no gun
- if you run out of ammunition, you have no gun

2) a hit beats a miss
- a .22 that hits is worth more than the .44 that misses
- carry only what you can shoot accurately
- carry only what you can hit with the follow up shot
- too big of a gun does not make you a man but it just might make you dead

3) fast beats slow
- he who shoots first, often shoots last
- until you get your gun into the fight, you have no gun
- carry so you can get to it
- practice getting to it in all kinds of situations (standing, sitting, in the car, with or without jacket, etc)

4) big holes beat small holes
- bigger holes bleed out faster
- bigger bullets make bigger holes
- jacketed hollow points make even bigger holes
- carry the biggest caliber you can manage under #2

5) 2 holes beat one hole
- if it needs to be shot once, shoot twice
- consider this when you are carrying extra magazines


36 posted on 08/30/2015 10:52:26 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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According to the left, 10 Things They Learn By You Carrying A Gun Every Day:

  1. You are insane. Because you are insane, guns should be forbidden to you.

  2. You are a racist and hope every day to kill a black man.

  3. You are a paranoid who thinks the government wants to spy on you through the NSA.

  4. You are evil.

  5. All we want to do is ban every single gun. After that, you can have all the guns that are left. Come on. I mean, 'Common Sense' for Gods sake.

  6. You hate children and want to shoot them.

  7. =8^o

  8. You should be rounded up in concentration camps and put into gas 'showers' like the Nazis did.

  9. You are a nutjob because you think we want to round you up in concentration camps and put you into gas 'showers' like the Nazis did.

  10. I hate you.

41 posted on 08/30/2015 11:02:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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My wife was out for dinner one night with some friends, some of whom are decidedly anti-gun and can’t understand why someone would carry. Walking to the car after dinner, the group noticed a couple of suspicious characters hanging around a dark corner of the parking lot. Looking to my wife, the group asked the same question, “You do have your gun with you, right?”

That one rang a bell. YEARS ago, before CCW was allowed in many states, I carried anyway. I was at a box store with my two kids when there was some kind of ruckus up near the cashiers and the loudspeaker blared for everyone to stay where they were, the police were on their way.

There were about six people standing near by (Betamax video recorder rack.) The oldest (12) says "Dad, are you gonna use your gun?" I damned near wet myself, expecting someone to rat me out.

Instead, they all moved closer to me and inadvertently I laughed to myself, thinking that these people would probably vote against anyone carrying, yet, as above, the sheepdog effect worked even then.

By time the cops got there, whoever was causing the disturbance ("waving a knife) had left.

60 posted on 08/30/2015 11:54:20 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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69 posted on 08/30/2015 12:52:50 PM PDT by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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Carrying a piece daily, doing errands, also biking, walking, running offers different challenges for concealment. Also the desire not to sacrifice firepower/accuracy/handling etc for a more concealable tiny firearm that some have a tendency to treat as a magical totem that defends against evil is another issue.

Carrying appendix inside waist band 1 or 2 o’clock (I’m ambidextrous with handguns) I usually go up in pant waist and shirt size...also concealment is easiest with guayabera or hawaiian shirts. Would work for any belt carry position really with these shirts. Such a shirt with patterned design like flowing lines one could hide a very large pistol easily, normal printing is camouflaged and disappears. I had a plain guayabera today and hid a Glock 20 full size 10mm easily with shorts.

A thick wide belt is necessary. Loading pockets with items for myself can feel weighty, while in contrast securing items on belt line — mags, fixed blade, flashlight — one feels lighter. Of course it depends on what type shirt being worn as it effects concealability...too many items, too many potential bulges.

If moving around all day, driving car to stores, walking, back to car, etc do I want items jabbing me in back sitting in car seat? Typically I’ll go over a belt loop at the 7 or 4 o’clock position when putting on a belt to allow movement so the extra mag(s) carrier can be slid to the side of my body to comfortably drive. Exiting vehicle the mag carrier is slightly moved back behind the hip bone. I don’t want back issues from sitting against a mag or flashlight jabbing me.

With AIWB carry it’s always a trade off between speed of access and concealability. For example running I use Dale Fricke Archangel, mounted high, excellent retention with the body/leg movement. Can do sprints, no issue. It does print so extra large sport shirt worn plus I normally run at night. Also biking with AIWB is intrusive with leg position, so I carry at 9 o’clock OWB American from One Source Tactical hugs body closely under shirt.

Otherwise normally carry Blade Techs Klipt kydex types or Galco Sto n Go leather. The bottom line is if people carry daily you’ll need several different holster variations.

Another issue I’ve had with a compact or subcompact firearm, such as Glock 19 or 26, printing is an issue with tighter shirts for variation (summer heat, dressing up, etc ...not into wearing a bed sheet all day) Normal holsters with clip will print, depending on shirt design, etc. Going to a smaller pistol isn’t something I want. However last week I attended a summer fair in tight t-shirt and shorts, and successfully concealed Glock 19 AIWB with extra mag in pocket. It was a matter of using a blackhawk or uncle mike’s nylon holster, not using the belt clip but sliding the pistol down until the grip was even with belt. A deep carry, pistol disappears, though harder to access quickly. Really it’s a thumb grab and pistol flies into palm of hand as moving upward.

I’ve noticed the sticky holsters mentioned here and will try them, as I want an option for wearing tighter shirts on occasion and a holster without a clip should work for that deep deep concealment, just have to make sure belt is tight per usual for retention, and the holster isn’t holding onto the gun in a draw... holding a piece with a sock over it one would look like a darn fool.


82 posted on 08/30/2015 7:55:56 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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6. How many other people carry concealed.

Once you start carrying, you tend to look for other people who are also carrying. Trying to spot other concealed carriers is a great way to pass time. Better yet, make this activity a self-improvement drill. If you can spot others carrying, consider what tipped you off to their armed status, and don’t make the same mistake yourself. For example, my daughter spotted a motorcyclist on the highway the other day using an inside the waistband holster covered by a long shirt. Cruising along with the wind in his face caused his shirt to ride up to his chest, leaving his gun exposed for all to see.

 

 

Bad example for CC. The biker was hardly carrying concealed. Sounds like brandishing to me.

83 posted on 08/31/2015 9:08:46 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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