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SHOCK POLL: Trump Receives 25% of Black Vote in General Election Matchup
theamericanmirror.com ^ | SEPTEMBER 6, 2015

Posted on 09/06/2015 7:43:18 PM PDT by Helicondelta

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To: matthew fuller

A president is going to be in charge of a massive organization. Actually multiple organizations with dramatically different goals and focus.

You need some good organizational experience. You need a lot of experience knowing how to appropriately measure an organization. And you need experience hiring and firing and selecting Executive level people to run those organizations.

Governor’s get that experience at the state level. But they inherit a bureaucracy that usually doesn’t have the sort of fiscal or operational discipline as private industry. Trump has that experience, because he has been managing a large organization for 50 years. I really think his private company experience is far better than a governors experience, because it has the added discipline of making a profit. That forces you to make decisions much faster than in a state government.

Carson was a Neurosurgeon at John’s Hopkins. How many people did he manage? How many executives did he manage? My guess is a few nurses and office people as part of his practice and no executives.

Whoever gets elected will be trying to figure out what the various agencies do. What goals they want to set for that agency. What skills they need in the person to lead them. And a good president is going to be figuring out how to measure and control the organizations.

Carson will be at a decided disadvantage to any of the Goveronors or to Trump or to Fiorina when it comes to management skill. For that matter I think Cruz and the other senators will be at a disadvantage too.


41 posted on 09/06/2015 8:23:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Helicondelta
Trump, you magnificent bastard.

Good one.

42 posted on 09/06/2015 8:24:47 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: gaijin

43 posted on 09/06/2015 8:25:03 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: Rusty0604

I think it is because they voted for Obama and now see where that got them. I kind of doubt they will vote for another black soon.


44 posted on 09/06/2015 8:28:22 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: vette6387

Oh I don’t know. It might have something to do with the fact that Trump’s been all over the map when it comes to tax policy. He’s on record recently as saying he favors a wealth tax and doesn’t seem to fond of hedge fund managers taking advantage of capital gains tax rates. Higher taxes sure doesn’t sound like he has a clue about how to grow an economy.

Or maybe it’s his positions on Eminent Domain where he thinks the Govenment has every right to take individual property for just the mere profit opportunity.

Or maybe where he says we’re going to take care of Women’s health because he loves women. Talks about repealing and replacing Obamacare with Trumpcare (i.e. “Something great that you’ll love”)

Other than giving me a statement that begins with “Because Trump says...”, tell me where you got the mistaken idea that Trump is an actual conservative that can be trusted?


45 posted on 09/06/2015 8:29:44 PM PDT by parksstp ("Truth is NOT Rhetoric" - Sen. Ted Cruz (The obvious conservative choice for POTUS))
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To: Helicondelta

Blacks respect a rich man who creates an empire. They want to do the same thing. Trump knows the blacks respect a no nonsense businessman. He’s tapped into something, they all want to be him.


46 posted on 09/06/2015 8:32:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but comSUrfmunists just ran for office)
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To: Helicondelta
Blacks are getting creamed in the job market by illegals.

Makes sense.

47 posted on 09/06/2015 8:32:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: gaijin

...like a boss...

Isn’t that El Presidente Lopez de Santa Ana’s formal dress uniform?
Oh, the irony.


48 posted on 09/06/2015 8:36:37 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: hoosiermama

I didn’t realize they had been friends for decades. If Trump selected Carson as VP, it would be a devastating ticket to the left. And it would pull a lot of black voters to the GOP.

But I doubt Trump will do that, for the very reasons I’ve already posted on this thread. I don’t think Carson is ready to be President, so he’s not ready to be VP either. I think Trump is going to select someone who has better skills for the job.

Trump should use Carson as head of HHS and let him get some big organizational experience. And then he could shift him after 2 years to another agency to help groom him further.

But I don’t know who Trump will select as VP. Carson and Cruz aren’t ready. Fiorina isn’t either, as her HP leadership wasn’t a clear success. Maybe Trump will go with Carson.

Are there any conservatives with leadership skills that didn’t run, that would help the ticket? Palin might and she’s got governor experience. But only 2 years and she folded.

Then again, pulling black voters to the GOP could help this country a lot in the long run.


49 posted on 09/06/2015 8:37:46 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

At age 33, Dr. Carson became the youngest physician to ever head a major division at Johns Hopkins. He was the director of pediatric neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions from 1984 until ???.

In addition to being a professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic surgery, and pediatric medicine.


50 posted on 09/06/2015 8:38:36 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: DannyTN

I agree with your post somewhat. In my career I was middle and then upper management, and I can tell you from my experience that a lot of it is hiring knowledgeable people that will work for your goals.


51 posted on 09/06/2015 8:39:20 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: erlayman

How much of that was affirmative action?


52 posted on 09/06/2015 8:39:51 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Lopeover

I want those people IN our party... they even understand our problem with the GOP Establishment... Flat out wonderful video...


53 posted on 09/06/2015 8:45:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Helicondelta

I don’t intend this to be negative or politically incorrect ( I don’t mind being either) but blacks will end up being drawn to Trumps bravado or bluster. Blacks like that kind of behavior. They respect it. How well that translates to votes is TBD. Trump needs to campaine in black areas and challenge the democraps by being “pimpish” in his im rich their losers kind of way. It’s a natural fit. JMHO.


54 posted on 09/06/2015 8:46:36 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: Caipirabob

Enough? If he could pull as little as 15% of the black vote the Democrats can not mathematically win the White House.

They have finally shown that they care nothing about the black community. They just want the next block voting group.


55 posted on 09/06/2015 8:47:52 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: BeadCounter

“I knew he could do well, well enough with the blacks and can do well enough with the Latinos.”

Most Latinos will not hear Trump’s message. They will only hear the underground and over-the-air drum beat that Trump is evil.


56 posted on 09/06/2015 8:47:57 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: parksstp

“Other than giving me a statement that begins with “Because Trump says...”, tell me where you got the mistaken idea that Trump is an actual conservative that can be trusted?”

First of all, I haven’t given you a statement to that effect. I have no reason to think Trump is a conservative, but taking what he has said at face value, if he simply does what he says he’s going to do about illegal immigration, and trade, I’d consider his presidency a success, comparing it to all the presidents in my lifetime save Reagan. Anyway, my vote counts just the same as yours does. Take your best shot.


57 posted on 09/06/2015 8:48:01 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: parksstp
I am a member of a grassroots immigration organization that lobbies on the Hill. Our organization commissioned a poll to determine attitudes on immigration. We found that 88% of blacks felt more strongly about immigration than any other group. They wanted legal immigration reduced and the illegals removed. No amnesty. The poll was conducted by Pulse in 2009.

We were involved a few years ago in the DC mayoral contest supporting a candidate who agreed with our views on immigration. We interviewed blacks in DC about immigration. They confirmed the findings in our poll. I remember one man who was a stonemason in DC. He was a veteran. He said he got more per hour 20 years ago than he gets now. Moreover, most of the people he works with are Hispanic. They don't speak English. He feels like an outsider in his own country.

In 2013 I helped organize the DC March for Jobs Check out the videos at the link. We got Jeff Sessions, Ted Cruz, Steve King, Allen West, and a number of prominent blacks to speak at the event. We had over 3,000 people many of them black.

The truth is what you posted a lot of previous Republicans have advocated. Rick Santorum is the most recent I can think of who had a similar platform on this from 2012. Did he get any love from the black community? Of course not. You know why? Because they were too busy voting for Obama the Messiah. And why is that? Because Obama the Messiah delivers the goodies just like Trump the pseudo-conservative will. In case you haven't heard, Obama is not running in 2016. Blacks are in worse condition than when Obama took office. The black teenage unemployment rate in urban areas is 95%.

No candidate has ever put forth an immigration plan like Trump's thanks to Jeff Sessions. It is revolutionary. And Trump is a celebrity unlike Santorum. Santorum's plan is nothing compared to what Trump is proposing. I wish Trump would stress more the protection of American jobs and stick to the points in the plan. I realize that the MSM and the Dems would rather focus on birthright citizenship and deportation. The most important part is what I posted, including the reduction of legal immigration.

Romney got 19% of the black vote age 18-24. I think much of it had to do with his immigration ideas. Trump can sell it if he sticks with the plan and doesn't wing it.

I have had one on one briefings with Cantor, George Allen, Ed Gillespie, and other Rep candidates stressing the Sessions approach. Only Dave Brat understood how immigration can be used as a winning issue for Reps. Now we have a Presidential candidate who was smart enough to go to Jeff Sessions and produce a policy that can change the political dynamics in this country. It is worth a shot.

Trump has done a great job of putting a face on the victims of criminal alien crime. No one has done that before. Instead all we got were sob stories about hardworking illegal aliens living in the shadows separated from their families.

Bottom line: Immigration can be a winning issue for Reps. It can penetrate traditional Dem constituencies including minorities and white blue collar workers. Both parties have abandoned the American worker.

58 posted on 09/06/2015 8:48:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: gaijin

Donald Amin Dada??


59 posted on 09/06/2015 8:48:34 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Helicondelta
SHOCK POLL: Trump Receives 25% of Black Vote in General Election Matchup

If that's true, and it can withstand the Media Propaganda corps, that makes it game, set and match.

60 posted on 09/06/2015 8:49:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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