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Vanessa Williams gets Miss America apology -- 32 years later
CNN ^ | 9/14/15 | Holly Yan

Posted on 09/14/2015 8:27:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Better late than never.

Actress and singer Vanessa Williams returned to the Miss America stage Sunday night, three decades after she became the first black woman to win the crown but resigned following a nude photo scandal.

...the Miss America CEO apologized to Williams on stage Sunday at the Miss America 2016 pageant for the way the scandal was handled.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: misogyny; pornography; rules
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Whatever. The article indicates she resigned under pressure from the organization.

Maybe an apology was due, I don't know. I remember when that all hit the fan in '84.

1 posted on 09/14/2015 8:27:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve seen the photos that got her in trouble. They were some pretty steamy lesbian stuff. She’s a beautiful woman though and I admire her. She seems like a nice lady.


2 posted on 09/14/2015 8:31:00 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Teddy Roosevelt 2016.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

She did just fine without them. Maybe even better....


3 posted on 09/14/2015 8:31:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SoFloFreeper

She helped the Miss America contest jump the shark.


4 posted on 09/14/2015 8:33:56 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well she probably got better pub from the “scandal” anyway. She was able to parlay this into some decent acting gigs.

Nowadays I don’t think some nudie pictures would make a big difference. Might even help.


5 posted on 09/14/2015 8:34:06 AM PDT by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I remember the situation also. No apology is due her. Those were not tasteful nude photos. They were rather explicit, and involved another woman.

Williams made a foolish choice, and has to live with that. It's not a big deal (nobody got shot, for example), but either an organization has standards, or it doesn't.

6 posted on 09/14/2015 8:34:13 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I cared as mush then as I do now.


7 posted on 09/14/2015 8:34:36 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: SoFloFreeper

I watched and it was a nice tribute to her but the questions the contestants got were liberally slanted.

The funniest was Miss Colorado recommending that Ellen Degeneris be placed on the $10 bill! LOL - guess she’s been smoking some of that mind numbing week….


8 posted on 09/14/2015 8:35:48 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“I remember when that all hit the fan in ‘84. “

i remember the pictures, just sayin’ (cough)


9 posted on 09/14/2015 8:36:38 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: SoFloFreeper

What apology?

I like her, but she failed disclose those photos and that certainly violated the terms, conditions and SPIRIT o fthe Miss America pageant.

It was HER mistake, not the Miss America organization’s.

SHE should be the one apologizing.


10 posted on 09/14/2015 8:38:07 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: demkicker

I would support putting Ellen Degenerates on the three dollar bill.


11 posted on 09/14/2015 8:39:19 AM PDT by henkster (Ms. Clinton, are you a criminal or just really stupid?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Those pictures were repulsive and she should have been canned. No apology was necessary, imo. Sometimes you have to pay big time for bad choices.


12 posted on 09/14/2015 8:40:23 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

She’s a wonderful lady and has done quite a lot to redeem and endear herself to the country in the ensuing years. But the pictures and her conduct in allowing them to be taken certainly didn’t fit the image, the values and the persona the pageant held at the time. Rightly or wrongly, the values and standards existed as they were for the time.

Given the debasing of morality in the years since, of course everyone thinks what she did shouldn’t have been singled out and punished - it’s what liberals and elites are good at doing..

After all, we’ve been told over 20 years ago “a bl@w job” really isn’t sex at all - why, it’s just a form of ‘conversation’ or ‘innocent social interaction’ or something.

We have a law called Ex Post Facto or something like that. It means a person can’t be charged ‘after the fact’ of a law’s instantiation (e.g., be charged for an act committed before the law’s enactment). Somehow, liberals and heart bleeders think we ought to apply this law in the reverse. Ergo, the apology I guess. Okay we all feel better now.

We each live in our own individual time lines according to the norm. We do and act and respond according to prevailing mores and attitudes and take our licks. Do overs are for sissies.

That said, Vanessa, you’re still a delightful lady and what you’ve done since doesn’t need legitimization. To my mind, I’d forgotten all that. This apology just dredges all that up again.


13 posted on 09/14/2015 8:40:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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SHE should be the one apologizing.

Excellent comment! But in today's society, everyone is an innocent victim.

14 posted on 09/14/2015 8:40:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

One of my favorite songs:

https://youtu.be/5EdmHSTwmWY


15 posted on 09/14/2015 8:40:55 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: henkster

LOL - good one!


16 posted on 09/14/2015 8:41:40 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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"Please forgive us for having had moral standards back then. Certainly, we should have suspended them in your case, considering that you were black. It was bigoted of us to hold you to the same standards that would be considered normal, even today, by millions of church-going black, white, and hispanic girls nationwide.

"In obedience to the state religion of no-religion-allowed, we should have remembered that the right to make a fool of yourself in nekkid pictures and corrupt the young (and yourself) must be protected above all else. Otherwise, how do we expect young ladies in your position to get that millstone hung around your neck?"

17 posted on 09/14/2015 8:45:44 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SoFloFreeper

She broke the rules and gets an apology. Porn is the new ideal?


18 posted on 09/14/2015 8:48:29 AM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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“We do and act and respond according to prevailing mores and attitudes and take our licks.”

Is that a joke?


19 posted on 09/14/2015 8:50:31 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

Take it however you want.


20 posted on 09/14/2015 8:53:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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