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NYT/CBS Poll: Carson, Trump in Statistical Dead Heat
Newsmax ^ | september 15, 2015 | Cathy Burke

Posted on 09/15/2015 6:54:50 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson has pulled to within 4 points of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump, a new poll shows.

In the New York Times/CBS News survey released Tuesday, Trump maintains the lead of the presidential pack, with 27 percent support. But Carson is within striking distance, at 23 percent, which is within the margin of error, making it a statistical dead heat.Carson's rise compared with his polling at 6 percent support in the pre-Aug. 6 debate Times/CBS News survey; Trump was at 24 percent in that earlier poll, showing Carson's gains the most significant in that time frame, the poll shows.

Far behind the leaders were former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, all tied for third place with 6 percent.

Bush's support, however, has plummeted from the 13 percent he got in the August Times/CBS News survey – while Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker finished with just 2 percent, down from his previous 10 percent support.

The declines in support for Bush and Walker were the largest in the survey, the poll shows.

In other findings: Carson drew more support from college graduates than Trump, while men, evangelical voters and those without a college education were more likely to favor Trump. Carson is the only candidate to whom Trump would lose a theoretical head-to-head matchup.

The poll's release comes a day before the second Republican presidential debate in California, where Trump will retain center-stage, but Carson will be afforded a bigger spotlight.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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To: ecomcon

Carson is an invention of the GOPe, and media hype, orchestrated by Fox News. He is a milder version of Obama. The man puts you to sleep talking, has said police treat black men rougher than than white men, has said we should let illegals stay in the country, and last, but not least was a democrat until the middle 80s, when he claims he switched and became a republican, then left the party and became an independent in the middle 90s because he didn’t like the way republicans were treating Bill Clinton and he didn’t agree with Clinton’s impeachment. This man is a fraud from the get-go. This poll is also BS. Just another way the media is trying to get Trump to go after Carson, because no one can possibly go after the Apostle Ben and survive.


61 posted on 09/15/2015 7:23:44 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: All

I was wrong. I guess budgetary constraints are horrid. CBS/NYT can’t do a survey so that the MOE is under 4? The MOE is 6. Third place is a three way tie at 6. This poll only says Trump and Carson are strong in a general way, and the rest is background noise. Useless. No reason any national poll should have any higher than 4. State polls no more than 3.


62 posted on 09/15/2015 7:24:37 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: Tulane

So you are all for Amnesty and Gun Control???????? That is what Ben believes!


63 posted on 09/15/2015 7:25:25 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: InterceptPoint
I don't get it: people won't vote for Trump who is a top businessman but will vote for a top surgeon who seems like he's on high doses of Atavan when he speaks. I don't get it. He's already made weird rumblings about black issues which remind me of Colin Powell at his worst. To be frank, like my attitude after the reign of Mayor Dinkins, it'll be a long time before I vote for another black candidate.
64 posted on 09/15/2015 7:25:51 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Hojczyk

I like Ben Carson, I really do. But I can’t shake the feeling that he is acting as a stalking horse for Jeb Bush. Clear out Trump and resume with the plan to force Jeb down our throats.

Ever wonder why there are so many candidates? It is so the vote can be split in key, delegate heavy states (where it is now winner takes all) allowing Jeb to win with 20-30% of the vote.


65 posted on 09/15/2015 7:26:01 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Hojczyk

Look at the crowds at the rallies, they don’t match up. Besides, look at the poll sponsors, NYT and CBS? Give them what they want, make it a Trump /Carson ticket. That would make them really happy. (Like hell it would.) The DMOP will be working over time this coming election.


66 posted on 09/15/2015 7:26:13 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: databoss

The bogus poll will be the lead story on every network on cable.
Megyn Kelly will start off with the story about “Trump and Carson being tied” going into the debate, and what will Trump do???? Oh, my!


67 posted on 09/15/2015 7:26:20 AM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: Tulane

With a 6 percent error range how many people did they ask, 10?


68 posted on 09/15/2015 7:26:31 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Hojczyk

Ben’s a jelly fish.

Mr. Carson, you will NEVER, EVER be POTUS! EVER!!


69 posted on 09/15/2015 7:26:47 AM PDT by Original Lurker
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To: Mollypitcher1

Carsson does not have the money …unless the GOP dumps Bush


70 posted on 09/15/2015 7:26:54 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: sitetest

So you too are all for Amnesty while Trump is for defending our sovereignty. Shame on you.


71 posted on 09/15/2015 7:27:01 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t know if this poll is fake or not. But the GOPe wants him to push Trump out of the race. Then, of course, they’ll push Carson out (which should be very easy) and replace him with Jeb or Marco. Not Cruz, certainly!


72 posted on 09/15/2015 7:27:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Hojczyk

Carson is too nice. We don’t need nice. Nice guys get rolled over by the leftist media and lose in the debates.

We need two guys who take names and kick ass...Trump/Cruz.


73 posted on 09/15/2015 7:29:11 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: sitetest
"I could vote for Ben. I absolutely will not vote for trump."

I could vote for Trump. I absolutely will not vote for ben.

74 posted on 09/15/2015 7:30:35 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment.)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Shame on YOU for not recognizing that trump’s position is not much different than Dr. Carson’s.


75 posted on 09/15/2015 7:31:37 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: All
NYT/CBS Poll: Carson, Trump in Statistical Dead Heat

Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson has pulled to within 4 points of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

But Carson is within striking distance, at 23 percent, which is within the margin of error, making it a statistical dead heat

Or I suppose the headline could be Trump leads Carson by as much as 10 points depending on how we want to breathlessly spin it, of course.
76 posted on 09/15/2015 7:32:06 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Tulane

Carson is starting to draw support as the “Anti-Trump”. I don’t trust Trump, but I actively dislike Carson’s ideas about illegal immigration, guns, etc. I also doubt he has the executive experience to be President.

There are others in the field, and I’d like some of them to gain some ground before my chance to vote comes next year...


77 posted on 09/15/2015 7:32:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: max americana

I imiagine theres some of that but it is mostly just the liberalism coming out of psuedocons as it does every election.

I mean it happens like clockwork every two years so how conservative are these people really? Answer: They arent. At best they are the moderates at best their actions show them to be. Why they just don’t admit it and haunt moderate sites I wil never understand.

Unless it’s to intentionally prevent actual conservatives from getting their sXit together...


78 posted on 09/15/2015 7:33:15 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("The road is long...and I must poop." - Volarian Lionheart/Hero of the people)
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To: Tulane

So you want amnesty. Really?

I’ll never vote for this chump.


79 posted on 09/15/2015 7:33:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: sitetest

I can vote for Trump and will never vote for Carson now.

Never.


80 posted on 09/15/2015 7:34:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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