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Rick Santorum accuses Ted Cruz of supporting �amnesty� for illegal immigrants
washington times ^ | 9/25/2015 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 09/25/2015 9:47:22 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: FreeReign

Trump will sent them out much faster. It will be expedited. They must go. That is what he is talking about.


81 posted on 09/25/2015 12:17:23 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: FreeReign

I don’t know, I am having a problem following your point and I am not going to wrestle it out. Trump is against amnesty, the ONLY Republican who has come out four-square against it. No matter what people say about Cruz, he refused to come out four-square against amnesty when Megyn Kelly gave him the opportunity a few weeks ago.

Now, if you want amnesty, then vote for whomever else you like.


82 posted on 09/25/2015 12:17:26 PM PDT by odawg
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

If the employment does not work out, the ‘Workers’ are encouraged to apply to change their non immigrant status.

IOW, it is an immigration program that is obscured by the false legalese of the law. The H-1B realities can be easily found on a web search.


83 posted on 09/25/2015 12:18:28 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Boogieman

In September,2012 Cruz expressly told the NY Times that he supported immigration reform (i.e. Amnesty) and he rejected any notion of self deportation.

I do not have the software to post this but it was documented in Adios America and you can access the link via that route.


84 posted on 09/25/2015 12:25:27 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: FreeReign
Devil's advocate here:

It is POSSIBLE that Trump meant to streamline and improve the immigration system when he said “get them in faster”. In other words, fixing the process for all immigrants, not just those previously deported. Which, would, in fact be what Cruz was recommending: fixing the absolutely broken legal immigration system so that greater numbers are allowed in legally.

Right now the people we WANT to immigrate (remember Mohammed Gulab, the man who rescued Luttrell?) have to go through years of ridiculous bureaucracy in order to even get a permanent resident visa. Meanwhile, our tracking system is so broken that guys can over stay their student visas for years and no one notices.

85 posted on 09/25/2015 12:26:07 PM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Go home Rick. Just go home.


86 posted on 09/25/2015 12:27:16 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: FreeReign

I see that hollow statement.

Link me to where you praise Trump for getting that much done.

All I see is you trashing the process, no thanks at all.

WTH is wrong with you?

Yes, I want them in the back of the line. Yes, I want quotas to remain the same.

Who has offered those as an option?

Please, give me a name. Just one!

Most of these guys are straight up amnesty supporters and we all know it.

There will be no vetting with them. Every crook will remain here.

Contrast that with a guy that plans to send everyone, including all the criminals home, and keep the criminals out.

Is that the best offer on the table?

Sure it is.

You act as if it isn’t. You act as if this guy’s plan is the worst.

It isn’t. What other game is there in this town?


87 posted on 09/25/2015 12:28:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Radix

Really? Because I have just posted links to where he advocated deporting DREAMers and told Romney to fight for deportation—also from 2012.


88 posted on 09/25/2015 12:28:37 PM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: odawg

If this the interview you are discussing, it was not a question of amnesty. It was about birthright citizenship.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cruz-dismisses-megyn-kellys-immigration-question-as-liberal-media-tactic/


89 posted on 09/25/2015 12:31:13 PM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: brothers4thID
It is POSSIBLE that Trump meant to streamline and improve the immigration system when he said “get them in faster”. In other words, fixing the process for all immigrants, not just those previously deported. Which, would, in fact be what Cruz was recommending: fixing the absolutely broken legal immigration system so that greater numbers are allowed in legally.

We have quotas for the number of legal immigrants that are allowed into the country every year. I believe we meet that quota limit every year. I don't want an increase. So in that sense, we don't need them "faster" and "greater".

And I disagree with Cruz (who is my favorite candidate) for wanting to increase the legal limit for H1B.

90 posted on 09/25/2015 12:37:06 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: brothers4thID

No, the question I heard was when Trump had just announced that all illegals would be deported. Kelly asked him point blank three times — would you deport ALL illegals like Trump. Cruz refused to answer, said that was a question that the press would ask, etc.

His position on birth right citizenship is about as murky.


91 posted on 09/25/2015 12:37:11 PM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

Kindly post a link, because I’ve yet to find one.


92 posted on 09/25/2015 12:41:17 PM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: FreeReign

Fair enough.


93 posted on 09/25/2015 12:42:04 PM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: DoughtyOne
You act as if it isn’t. You act as if this guy’s plan is the worst.

Again, please don't post nonsense to me. I praised Trump to the hilt when he signed on to the Sessions plan.

It isn’t. What other game is there in this town?

My top two candidates are Cruz and then Trump.

I have criticized BOTH on illegal immigration.

Both are still heads and shoulders above any other candidate on illegal immigration.

94 posted on 09/25/2015 12:44:30 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Radix

Yeah, someone posted that NY Times story, but I see no quotes directly from Cruz on the really relevant points. It amounts to taking an NYT reporter’s word for it that Cruz actually told him those things.

So I am not buying it, if that is the only source.


95 posted on 09/25/2015 12:48:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FreeReign

I don’t follow you around the forum to get your whole outlook.

I see you on a thread trashing the Trump plan and I call you on it.

Then you tell me I’m posting nonsense to you.

No, I’m responding to nonsense.

If you dislike part of Trump’s plan fine. I agree with you on two points. I don’t see any agreement with his other points here, which we also agree on.

Help those who read your posts to know where you actually stand, rather than reading your posts as simply another hit piece against Trump.

I’m not happy with the prospect of 30 million people flooding this nation even legally. I do think they should have to get into the back of the line. I do think our quotas should remain constant.

Trump’s plan is still by far the most aggressive at turning this around. Sadly.


96 posted on 09/25/2015 12:49:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Uh, this is a thread about Santorum attacking Cruz on immigration. I think there are plenty of Trump bashing threads to be dealt with without having to turn every thread into a Trump thread.


97 posted on 09/25/2015 12:55:40 PM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: Cruz’s wife served on the CFR task force that wrote “Building a North American Community,”

What my wife does and what her opinions are are HERS, NOT MINE. I’m sure ted Cruz also knows the difference.

I hope you are right , still a puzzle why his vote for Corker Bill and early support for TTP

Ted Cruz flips on Obama trade agenda after months of support

...WASHINGTON — For months, Sen. Ted Cruz backed a critical part of President Barack Obama’s trade agenda. But after weeks of taking heat from conservatives, Cruz abandoned his support for Trade Promotion Authority on Tuesday.

Why Did Sen. Cruz Give Obama Executive Action On Iran?

98 posted on 09/25/2015 12:55:41 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: brothers4thID

I responded to a comment.

Maybe you should be directing your ire elsewhere.


99 posted on 09/25/2015 12:58:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: brothers4thID

FYI

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3341124/posts?page=18#18


100 posted on 09/25/2015 1:00:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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