Posted on 10/01/2015 7:55:17 PM PDT by PingPongChampion
The best duo I can think of.
Trump is a DOER .. not a sitter and complainer.
Cruz is also a DOER, and he knows the law and how to use it as it should be used .. while Cruz also knows how to WRITE the laws that are needed to get important things done.
What a dynamite combination.
You are correct about Cruz. I really like him...he is just about everything I stand for myself. But he would not survive in this election cycle. We need Trump to demolish the establishment GOP machine, and I believe Trump will prevail. Then it becomes time for our good friend Cruz.
A Trump landslide would effectively do serious damage to the GOPe. Cruz as VP, or as Senate Majority Leader or as Atty Gen'l...and at some point the Supreme Court.
One of the most important reasons for having a GOP President and a conservative GOP Congress is Federal and Supreme Court judicial appointments. This is why we can't stay home on election day this election cycle. Federal/Supreme Court excesses must be stopped now, or we won't have a Country, This United States of America, anymore.
Yep. The sad thing that Ryan was up against a blowhard, a bully and an incredibly stupid man, had all the facts on his side and still refused to land a punch. He didn’t come across as a gentleman either, he came across as a Sissy.
Agree - my comment was more about speculating why he acted the way he did, so in his mind I think he was going for “gentleman” - but yes, it came off as “sissy”.
He should have noticed that behind the grinning and the laughing Biden was saying things that deserved sound rebukes. If I didn’t know better, I’d think Biden’s inappropriate giddiness that day was brilliant and deliberate strategy to put Ryan off guard, rather than just his usual immaturity, which he seems to get away with all the time.
Agree completely. If a Trump/Cruz ticket does prevail in the general, than I’m hoping Cruz will have Trump’s ear, and do his usual great job of making persuasive arguments and hence be a real influence on a Trump presidency - followed by 8 years of the real deal when Cruz takes over!
I take Trump at his word when he claims to have changed his views on some issues. And while he still holds some views that are not conservative, he’s a smart guy and he strikes me as someone who is open to reason - unless, that is, you put him on the defensive with even the mildest insult.
Cruz has wisely recognized that, and has thus been handling Trump perfectly so as to cultivate an ally. So I think there’s a good chance that Trump would pick Cruz, not just for that reason, but also recognizing that he needs to shore up the conservative base vote.
Surrounding yourself with smart people and listening to their advice can compensate for a whole laundry list of other faults, which Trump has in spades.
I will also note that while he has made utterly stupid remarks on some of the other candidates, especially Dr. Ben Carson, he has (so far) held his acid tongue on Ted Cruz.
Concurring bump. Too early to rule anyone out. Windflier and other Trump promoters need to try again in, say, January or February, when we've seen the early primaries.
Meanwhile, the state RPC's in States that continue to run open primaries need to be tossed out of the Party. No 'Rats in our primaries!
Bump!
It would be difficult to state my own conversion to a Trump supporter from a Cruz supporter more succinctly. Trump is leading a movement that encompasses the entire political spectrum. Of American voters of all stripes, fed up with the lies, the economy, the lack of return on hard-earned savings, and the erosion of purchasing power yet to come from the massive money printing of the Fed.
Trump may not be a true-blue conservative, but he’s conservative enough for most of us, and we BELIEVE he will build the wall and stop the anchor baby magnet.
Nothing else really matters for conservatives, because without the accomplishment of those two things, this country will NEVER elect a constitutional conservative as President again. We simply will not have the votes.
bump
Not sure what you mean by "style", but it's a fact that more people want what Trump is selling, than want what Cruz is selling. Polls are consistently showing that to be the case.
I think that voters are examining both men, and are determining that Trump is more what we need in a president this time around.
I agree that we're still a long way out from the first primary vote, but we're not that far out. Things are tightening up by the week, and clear patterns are emerging that provide some predictive value as to where the race is headed.
As of now, all those predictive values point to Trump winning the nomination. We've seen clear front runners fade before, but I'm not so sure that will happen in this particular race, given the unique socio-political circumstances of our nation at this time.
We'll see what we see. Good talking with you.
Well, I'm not really a Trump promoter. I've only commented about him and the presidential race here and there since this all started. Mostly, I'm in lurk mode these days.
As for ruling any candidate out, it's sort of what we do around here. Conjecture, pondering, forecasting, analysis - it's all good.
I'm just sitting in my little Ivory Tower like everyone else, sharing my take on what I see developing. I've been wrong about these sorts of horse races before, and I'll probably be wrong again, but I can't help seeing what I'm seeing.
Just calling it as I see it, friend.
Nothing else really matters for conservatives, because without the accomplishment of those two things, this country will NEVER elect a constitutional conservative as President again. We simply will not have the votes.
Above all else, that is the inescapable calculus that has caused me to line up behind Trump this go-round. If we get this election wrong, we'll be left with only a few other options to remedy the situation - none of which any of us will like.
I truly feel that this is our very last opportunity to work within the system left to us by the Framers.
True. But not at all relevant to my point. You said Palin cheered Trump for running, I pointed 2 horrible endorsements she's made in the past as evidence she's hardly a perfect arbiter. She also was a backer of Fifi in the 2010 Senate primary in Cali. I thought that was the right call but most freepers were for Chuck DeVore and thought Sarah was being nuts and maybe they were right. The point, she can be wrong.
had you been at the Cow Palace in ‘64 when Ronald Reagan gave his ‘A Time for Choosing’ speech, would you have been applauding (and trusting) or would you have been jeering ‘you used to be a liberal ‘Rat, get outta here!!’?
I doubt I'd have booed Reagan in 1964 because he had been a liberal in 1948. I'm certain though that I wouldn't have suggested that a man with no political experience other than running the Actor's Guild run for President in 1964 based a good speech. And he didn't run for President in 1964, he ran for Governor first and proved how he would govern.
I wouldn't mind seeing Trump as Governor of New York, though I'm not as bullish of his chances of carrying that State as you. But he's running for President, with nothing to back him up but his word, which is not enough for him to float to the top of my list.
Carson is nothing but the GOPe flavor of the month and his numbers are soft and (IMHO) not sustainable.
I agree his support is soft, based on the fact that no one really dislikes him, lowest negatives. And yet he's a not too distant 2nd right now to Mr. Inevitable Trump, which tells me this race is far from over with 3/4s of the primary electorate NOT backing Trump right now.
In what world would that be a winning ticket? Cruz has consistently polled in the middle of the pack, despite his excellent conservative bona fides. Ideologically, he's precisely what we Freepers want to see in a president, but he falls short of what most Americans on the right, need and want in a president at this time.
That would be an established outsider like Trump, who also has the command presence and the requisite type of platform to garner a plurality in this primary.
Without Trump in the race, Cruz stands no chance of being part of the Executive branch in 2016. The Republican party establishment would have been able to manipulate their chosen RINO into the nomination, were it not for the entry of Donald Trump.
Because we've already tried RINO at the top and conservative at VP without success. It's time to flip that.
I can't disagree with that, but I don't buy your premise that Trump is the 'RINO' in our hypothetical match-up between him and Cruz.
No one who's followed Trump over the last seven years, or has read any of his books, could reasonably come to the conclusion that he's a RINO by any stretch. In addition, there's his entire performance over the last five months of this primary to judge him by. Using that metric alone, there's no way any intelligent person could conclude that he's a Republican In Name Only.
I will accept that Trump doesn't meet your personal purity standards for what you want in a conservative presidential nominee, but where reality's concerned, he's plenty conservative enough for the job at hand. That's been borne out in his many comments, speeches, and position papers this summer.
OK he was for Hillary. Then he was hoping that Obama would succeed, even though most of us that knew an Obama success was not a USA success. RINO is a compliment to what Trump really is.
I watched Romney and McCain back off positions that Trump held in the past, If they are RINO's I fail to see much difference.
You’re apparently convinced that Trump is some kind of trickster, who’s fooled a strong plurality of conservatives into believing he’s something that he’s not. Given the scattershot nature of some of his past opinions, I can understand your skepticism.
I wish I could find the first comment I made after I discovered Trump was running. It was the very voice of a skeptic. I remember Trump toying with running before, and thought for sure he was doing the same thing again.
I had so little regard for him as a potential candidate, I didn’t even bother to track down his past opinions and stances on the issues. Seemed like a huge waste of time, considering he was just yanking our chains anyway.
And then I started listening to what he was saying. Over the course of a week or two, I realized he was the only person standing for the office who was clearly speaking the language I’ve been dying to hear from an American leader since Reagan’s days.
My skepticism weakened as I delved more and more into who this man is, and what he’s actually about. I think by week three, I’d come to realize that there was something utterly unique about the man, his prescription for fixing the country, his unassailable positioning in the party, and his dauntless spirit.
When it became clear to me that he’s the only person in the race that can’t be bought or owned by special interests, or the establishment machine, I knew I had to park what skepticism I had left, and really think this thing through.
In the time since then, I’ve watched the man carefully, and have made mental notes as to what he’s proposing, as well as how he’s dealing with all of the opposition against him. I’ve got to say, I’m mighty impressed. I honestly haven’t seen a campaign like his in all my life. It’s damn refreshing to see him say the very same things that have been repeated ad nauseum on this site for years. He’s speaking to Americans like no politician on either side has for decades, now.
And you know what? I believe him when he says he wants to make this country great again. Apparently, so do a lot of other Americans. So many, in fact, that he’s maintained a commanding lead in the polls throughout his time in the race. If he doesn’t commit some unforgivable error in the next six months, he’s going to be the Republican nominee.
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