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To: navysealdad
"Despite his dismissal, Charamsa remains a priest."

Anyone see a problem here?

4 posted on 10/03/2015 5:09:49 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Anyone see a problem here?

No. You can't un-priest a priest. Just like you can't un-baptize someone who is baptized.

8 posted on 10/03/2015 5:21:46 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

A defrocked priest. He can take up with God when the time comes.


9 posted on 10/03/2015 5:23:19 AM PDT by AU72
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
"Despite his dismissal, Charamsa remains a priest." Anyone see a problem here?

As with baptism, the effect of the sacrament of Holy Orders cannot be removed.

Laicized priests are removed from public ministry.

Full Question

I've heard that when a man leaves the priesthood, he undergoes a process called "laicization," which takes away his priestly powers, making him a regular layman. Is this correct?

Answer

It is only partly correct. Laicization is a process which takes from a priest or other cleric the licit use of his powers, rights, and authority. Laicization occurs automatically when a priest, deacon, or monk marries or joins the military without permission. Major clerics (priests and deacons) are directly laicized through their superiors by the penalty of degradation. The Holy See also has the privilege of laicizing major clerics.

Laicized clerics are forbidden to wear clerical dress or to perform ceremonies or to administer the sacraments ordinary to their former offices. Priests who are laicized are required to continue practicing celibacy, although dispensations from this discipline are frequently given. Otherwise, laicization renders a cleric for ecclesiastical purposes the equivalent of a layman.

The supernatural mark of holy orders and the powers connected with the sacrament (especially for the priest) remain even after laicization, although they cannot be used licitly. A laicized priest has the power to confect the Eucharist. Although to the world he may live as a layman, in a sense "once a priest, always a priest."


14 posted on 10/03/2015 6:10:35 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes. The problem is in the reporting or the lack of it. Once ordained, a man is a priest forever, exactly as a man and women married are married forever. Question is, will he serve Mass and hear confessions?


16 posted on 10/03/2015 6:36:46 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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