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Gulf states plan military response as Putin raises the stakes in Syria
The Guardian ^ | October 4, 2015 | Emma Graham-Harrison and Saeed Kamali Dehghan

Posted on 10/04/2015 5:10:35 AM PDT by JPX2011

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To: AdmSmith
This will make it complicated

Russia is taking out the trash in Syria and there's nothing "complicated" about it.

21 posted on 10/04/2015 6:08:45 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: DoodleDawg
What would you have had a President Romney or President McCain do?


This actually is seemingly all part of Obama’s Middle East deliberate plan.

In retrospect he has intentionally tried to depose the secular old guard leadership with Radical Islamic Muslim Brotherhood leadership.

He has begun the build up of Iran as the regional super power.

He has destroyed American influence in the region

He has destroyed our attempts to build a better Iraq and is engineering it's liquidation and partition to Iran, ISIL and Turkey (a Biden foreign policy goal BTW)

He has fueled the exponential growth of Radical Isalm and Jihad world wide

He has created chaos and strife in the region.

In the run up to the 2102 election, we were warned that part of Obama’s plan for his second term was a plan to destabilize Syria such as to create a humanitarian disaster that would displace refugees and force a flood of millions of Muslim “refugees” into Europe and the United States to begin to expand the Caliphate into the Western world .

This was dismissed as tin foil hat conspiracy theory at the tine and any attempts by concerned people to bring this up in the media were hit with ,”we do not do the Caliphate here ( a direct quote by one of the top media talking heads on the air on one of the major news shows” ) but it seems to be playing out as predicted, and the massive coordinated flood of Muslims for all over the world, not just war torn Syria (only 20% of the Muslim invasion of Europe is from Syria).

Furthermore, the size and logistics of the current invasion combined with the propaganda offensive suggest that this is a pre planned, well organized, funded and coordinated attempt to manufacture a crisis and humanitarian disaster in Syria and use the whole “refugee crisis” and the existing refugee resettlement policies and humanitarian ideals of Europe and the United States as cover for what amounts to a Muslim invasion of Europe.

Obama has weaponized America and Europe's well intended Refugee Laws on the books and our innate good will and humanitarian inclinations to help war displaced people in need as tools to demographically swamp the Western democracies with a flood of Muslim invaders who change the political balance in those countries and lead to a religious and cultural shift to Islam .

This comes at at time when the US and Europe are very closely politically divided in almost 50-50 numbers and the importation of these refugees are calculated to push the balance of power in the direction favoring the continued Islamization of the Europe and the United States and the continued political domination of the politicians in Europe and the US who support these goals

23 posted on 10/04/2015 6:27:49 AM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Miller)
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To: rdcbn

And Obama is succeeding too The R party brass having sold out to the islamonazis , too, there’s no opposition to the enemy’s invasion and takeover of USA and Europe


24 posted on 10/04/2015 6:40:39 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: DoodleDawg

Neither do I


25 posted on 10/04/2015 6:47:35 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (Nothing to add at the moment)
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To: JPX2011

The Saudi military option is the US Air Force

Anyone heard from obama since he took the family on “ vacation to Martha’s Vineyard” this weekend?

Meanwhile obama and Kerry’s new ally Iran threatens military attack on Saudi Arabia over the hajj deaths and rumors from Saudi suggest a coup against King Salman is being openly discussed among the royal family

The gulf states are going to discover that money cannot buy foreign policy indefinitely


26 posted on 10/04/2015 6:50:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: JPX2011

The day some rich oil dictators take on Russia will be their last day in power— and thry know it. They’re already pushing their luck financing terrorist forces attacking Russia’s interests in Syria. That won’t last long now. Longer term, Putin isn’t just doing the world a good deed - he’s taking control of the oil (or at the very least, it’s ability to get to market).


27 posted on 10/04/2015 6:54:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: AdmSmith

You need to do better research on the targets the Russians hit and the groups they were aiming for

The “ Army of Conquest” is not moderate or good . It includes Al Qaeda in Syria and the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria - yet our pentagon condemns the Russians for targeting them

There are no good guys opposing Assad, only sunni and salafist extremists determined to institute a caliphate and ethnically cleanse Syria of Christians Alawites or anyone who is not radically sunni ... Thousands of the “ moderate rebels” are not even Syrian but are radicals from all over the region. We are arming them

The FSA has killed as many civilians as has Assad and the UN found they were most likely to have used chemical weapons on civilians, not Assad . fortunately for Russia and Syria they are the least committed to their cause and are surrendering and fleeing en masse if Russian battle commentary is to be believed


28 posted on 10/04/2015 7:00:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: mac_truck; nuconvert; ETL; SunkenCiv

Re my post with a link that writes that 2000 Islamists mainly Chechens are forming a joint front against Russia and this http://www.almoslim.net/node/242646 that 50 Saudi Clerics are urging support by any means against Russia.

As you know there are more than three million Muslims in Moscow. That makes Moscow the largest Muslim city in Russia and the largest Muslim capital in Europe, with “ethnic Muslims” now forming a quarter of some of the capital’s districts and becoming an increasingly visible part of the city’s public space
http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.se/2015/09/more-than-three-million-muslims-now-in.html

Since FSB is shipping islamists to Syria to fight with (not against ISIS/Daesh) http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/69364.html
it is going to be complicated indeed.

The Soviet method of Provokatsiya http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/ will cause severe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence)


29 posted on 10/04/2015 7:03:16 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: silverleaf

Please read my answer above, and for more info check this http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:admsmith/index?tab=comments;brevity=full


30 posted on 10/04/2015 7:07:14 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

Russia moving in under the pretense of ridding the region of ISIS is like the Mafia moving to your neighborhood under the pretense of eliminating street crime, then setting up a permanent base there to do Mob “business”.

Russia will grow wealthier, more powerful, more aggressive in their overall expansionist agenda (Eastern Europe, eventually elsewhere), and much more of a threat to the US and its allies throughout the world. Sure it’s great IF they actually do get rid of ISIS (we shall see). But having a country like Russia step in and gain such huge strategic advantage over the US is really nothing we should be cheering about.

If Obama was serious about wanting to take out ISIS, which I don’t believe he ever was—I think him and Putin are actually in cahoots on this whole thing despite his and Kerry’s moans and groans about it, it might not ever have come to this, although Russia would likely have come up with some other rationale or excuse for moving into Syria and taking control of it, and ultimately the entire Middle East, which makes me wonder a bit if ISIS wasn’t a KGB-like invention of the Russians.


31 posted on 10/04/2015 7:09:17 AM PDT by ETL (Too many idiots, not enough time)
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To: ETL

Re: Russia moving in under the pretense of ridding the region of ISIS is like the Mafia moving to your neighborhood under the pretense of eliminating street crime, then setting up a permanent base there to do Mob “business”.

Or, rather, under the pretense of removing a violent street gang.


32 posted on 10/04/2015 7:11:04 AM PDT by ETL (Too many idiots, not enough time)
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To: AdmSmith

Everything is “complicated” to Obama’s Islamist boot-lickers and their homo-fascist neocon synchophants.

No surprise here.


33 posted on 10/04/2015 7:20:09 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: JPX2011

Saudi’s responsible for 9/11

Yet to date have suffered no consequences

They can run, but they can’t hide.


34 posted on 10/04/2015 7:20:22 AM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: ETL
Russia will grow wealthier, more powerful, more aggressive in their overall expansionist agenda.

Yes, they will be more aggressive, but only more powerful in the short run as they have no resources and no money. They will not grow wealthier, on the contrary they will be a poor entity with gas and oil too expensive to extract at a profit for their own country. I feel sorry for the Russians, they deserve a better future.
35 posted on 10/04/2015 7:21:48 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith
Yes, they will be more aggressive, but only more powerful in the short run as they have no resources and no money.

What about all the natural and other resources they will grab hold of once in?

36 posted on 10/04/2015 7:24:13 AM PDT by ETL (Too many idiots, not enough time)
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To: mac_truck

Please read the links above, I added one in Russian for your convenience.


37 posted on 10/04/2015 7:25:21 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: ETL
What about all the natural and other resources they will grab hold of once in?

When pigs fly.
38 posted on 10/04/2015 7:28:01 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

It would be the end of Putin if all blew up in his face


39 posted on 10/04/2015 7:31:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Yes, there is a high probability for a crash, that is why I wrote that I feel sorry for the Russians.


40 posted on 10/04/2015 7:39:27 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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