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It Took Me Two Hours to Get my Hands on an AK-47. Welcome to America
The Guardian ^ | guns In the United States, guns are not hard to find, even illegal ones. Photograph: PATRICK BAZ/AF | Eric Rodriguez

Posted on 10/08/2015 10:05:16 AM PDT by nickcarraway

It’s not hard to get your hands on illegal guns and rifles in America. It took me about two hours. I called a guy from the old neighborhood in LA, said something about a “piece”, and, hours later, I was staring at an AK-47 and an illegally modified AR-15, which were sitting on a kitchen table. Welcome to America.

Admittedly, he was surprised at my interest in being strapped since it’s been a good minute since I was about the life, but when I explained I was simply curious to see how long it’d take for me to get a gat, he agreed to the idea. He had some handguns, too, he said, although I didn’t see ‘em. I took his word for it after seeing the AK-47 and AR-15, because those weapons leave an impression.

Some of the weapons were smuggled in, while others were bought on the up and up – waiting period and all. Moving them is not his thing; he collects, and, on occasion, heads out to the desert with others to shoot. If I needed something, we could talk to another homie and with a few hundred dollars out of pocket, I’d be set. I passed on the opportunity.

I didn’t expect my search to be so successful – especially since the black market usually requires some know-how, something I don’t have much of these days, since, well, I’ve done a complete 180, and I rarely spend anytime even associating with people running afoul of the law. But it was shockingly easy.

Looking at these highly dangerous weapons, I felt deeply disturbed – despite being a veteran and having served in Iraq. There’s something about seeing these weapons here in the US and not in a combat zone; it makes it all too unsettling, as

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ericrodriguez; gat; guncontrol; patrickbaz; secondamendment; unitedkingdom
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To: ShadowAce

Who the hell calls an AK a ‘gat’? Does this guy only speak single syllable words in his vocabulary also?


61 posted on 10/08/2015 10:53:42 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: beenhereforever

Absolutely true, but I’m sure all of these criminals with illegal guns will be more than happy to comply with Obama’s new laws. To a very large extent, more laws - of any type - have little to no effect on criminals. Murder, possession of fully-automatic weapons without a Class III FFL, trafficking in drugs, etc., are already illegal. New laws do, however, have an effect on (previously) law-abiding citizens. They make more criminals.


62 posted on 10/08/2015 10:55:11 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: IYAS9YAS

“They don’t even need my SSN on the form.”

SSN isn’t required, but supposedly helps to speed up the process. You’re fortunate if because of your unique last name the process goes quick for you. Some people I know get delayed every single purchase. Evidently there is an NICS PIN# a person can apply for which make the check instant. I don’t know anyone who’s gone through that process though.


63 posted on 10/08/2015 10:57:31 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: nickcarraway

Well, well, well. The lawbreaking-author, Edward Rodriguez, committed an illegal act. What a surprise. In fact, this criminal disproves his entire implied-premise, that more laws are needed to reign-in the ‘horrible’ number of guns in the USA. That only bad guys refuse to obey the law is proved once again.


64 posted on 10/08/2015 10:59:34 AM PDT by RightGuy
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Who, under the age of 50 says “gat”?

A simpering pansy "journalist" that saw too many Jimmy Cagney movies while getting his theater degree?

65 posted on 10/08/2015 11:05:46 AM PDT by wbill
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To: nickcarraway

The fact that something is illegal doesn’t mean it can’t be obtained. If you have the money and are willing to step outside the law you can get damn near anything you want. Guns, explosives, drugs, adolescent sex slaves, whatever.


66 posted on 10/08/2015 11:08:46 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: GOPJ
Actually, he didn't buy an AK or even have one offered for sale, an old acquaintance showed him is private stash (dumb):

Moving them is not his thing; he collects, and, on occasion, heads out to the desert with others to shoot. If I needed something, we could talk to another homie and with a few hundred dollars out of pocket, I’d be set.

The article is propaganda. The title is misleading (surprise!), author is lying, leftie is fixated on evil assault rifles and fails to even accurately describe them (what mods??), some were smuggled probably means bought legally elsewhere..or refers to magazine size.

That said, If you add DOJ/AFT following "the mob" your conclusion would be more valid.

67 posted on 10/08/2015 11:10:49 AM PDT by norton
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder if his sketchy friend could also get him some crack, herion, or other pharmaceutical of choice. If so, they should make more laws against it. /sarc


68 posted on 10/08/2015 11:15:48 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither)
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To: IC Ken

Exactly. He just publicly confessed.


69 posted on 10/08/2015 11:18:34 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: nickcarraway

And yet no law abiding gun owner procures their weapons the way he did. So this is relevant to which gun control argument?


70 posted on 10/08/2015 11:22:02 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Carthego delenda est
SSN isn’t required, but supposedly helps to speed up the process.

Yeah, I have two buddies who have to use the SSN. Too many with their name combos.

71 posted on 10/08/2015 11:22:46 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: nickcarraway

Was it a full-auto/selective fire AK or just a semi-auto knockoff? What was “illegally modified” about the AR? Or does this moroon even know enough about guns to ask?


72 posted on 10/08/2015 11:26:05 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: nickcarraway

Total bs.


73 posted on 10/08/2015 11:28:50 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: nickcarraway

So taking guns from law-abiding citizens is going to solve this program?


74 posted on 10/08/2015 11:34:57 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: Uncle Miltie
And yet fully automatic AK-47s and AR-15s are NEVER used in committing crime.

Let me correct that statement for you:

And yet fully automatic AK-47s and AR-15s are ALMOST NEVER used in committing crime, and the rare instances legally registered Title 2 firearms under the NFA of 1934 were UNLAWFULLY POSSESSED AND USED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COMMISSION OF CRIMES.

75 posted on 10/08/2015 11:38:00 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: nickcarraway

I was in the UK and bought a nuclear missile in 10 minutes. Totally true bro! Journalism is sweeeeeeeet bra.


76 posted on 10/08/2015 11:38:26 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Uncle Miltie

“And yet fully automatic AK-47s and AR-15s are NEVER used in committing crime.”

I don’t know about that, since I’m always seeing the actors who think that all guns should be banned are always using fully automatic weapons in their movies .....

But since the guns almost all of us own do not have a `select-fire’ feature (full auto/semi-auto), semi-automatic firearms don’t satisfy the definition of an “assault rifle/weapon.

And the last figure I recall, these non-assault rifle ARs and AKs are used in less than 2% of all firearm crimes.


77 posted on 10/08/2015 11:40:31 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: nickcarraway
It Took Me Just Two Hours to Become a Felon in America
78 posted on 10/08/2015 11:51:15 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: DCBryan1

I used “Never” in a statistical sense.

There may be a handful of crimes committed with them per year. But they fall well under 1%.

As noted upthread, the incidence of long-rifle crime commission is WAY under 5%, and last I read was under 1%. I greatly suspect those numbers are almost all bolt rifles or semi-automatics. The rate of fully automatic rifles among them will be a miniscule fraction.

So, when you get down to a miniscule fraction of a <1% group, you are dealing with a statistical “Never”. Not exactly NONE, but effectively NEVER.

When someone gets around to counting crimes committed by firing fully automatic weapons, I’ll bet there are fewer than TEN per year in the country.


79 posted on 10/08/2015 11:54:31 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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To: tumblindice
An answer appears to be about once every twenty years:

Class 3 Weapons Crime Numbers

Posted on October 19, 2011 by admin

It might suprise you to learn that “machine guns” are not as evil as some would lead you to believe. Watching TV, Movies and the news reports, you might think that there are violent crimes involving fully automatic weapons every weekend.

How many deaths would you say were attributed to class 3 weapons in 2010?

How many deaths would you say in the last decade were attributed to class 3 weapons?

How many civilians were killed with class 3 weapons since the ban was instituted?

Do you have you numbers ready? Well, there isn’t a true clearing house for all of these numbers and there are some discrprencies in the reports, but the numbers are staggering.

According to GunCite.com, in 1995 there were about 240,000 “machine guns” registered with the ATF. About half of those are registered to private civilians with the rest belonging to police and military.

GunCite.com says that there have been 2 crimes committed by legal owners of “machine guns”. The first was committed by a policeman in Dayton, Ohio in 1988. The second occurred in 1992 and little information can be found about this one.

http://www.class3weaponslicense.com/162/class-3-weapons-crime-numbers

80 posted on 10/08/2015 11:58:47 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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