Posted on 10/11/2015 11:12:05 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Bernie Sanders said, I want to move from Obamacare Sunday on Meet the Press.
Sanders told host Chuck Todd, I want to build on the Obamacare But I do believe that when 29 million people still have zero health insurance, and when many more are underinsured with large deductibles and copayments, and when we pay much more per capita, and when we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs, you know what, Chuck? I think we can do a little better.
Todd then pressed Sanders, So its fair to say, yeah, you want to replace Obamacare?
Sanders claimed, I want to move from. Its not my the Republicans want to throw millions of people off their health insurance. I want to cover everybody.
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Bernie wants “Sanderscare”. Same song and dance, better name for his ego.
The answer is called cross-state competition, Bernie.
You collectivist puke.
Bernie Sanders packages a five year old’s fantasy notion of economics into a 74 year old body.Amazing he made it to this age without getting hit by a car chasing a ball into the street.
Unlikely any “WAVE” will develop, since nothing close to that has occurred yet. The gimmedats will have their heavily subsidized or free healthcare, and those like me that actually suffer under the burden you mentioned are too small a minority to be heard, much less listened to. Any “sympathetic” media will push for single payer, which we will be getting soon, with republican support. The die is cast, usher in the fat lady...
You are correct. Frankly if the Government is going to destroy the economy they might as well just go all the way.
Someone in another thread questioned how sanders can run as an independent socialists well this partly answers the question.
Sanders has nothing to worry about - the suck-ups at CNN won’t ask him anything embarrassing... until it’s a way to allow him to shine... Same with Hillary. The so called ‘tough’ questions will be ways for the teacher’s pets to grandstand.
CNN sucks - and the debates haven’t even happened yet.
Did Bernie vote for Obamacare?
Sanders wants to make Obamacare even worse than it is so no its not quite a “move away” from it than it is a ramping up of the current law.
Bernie knows the worse affects of zerOcare come after he takes office.
To each according to his needs.
Instead of obammiecare he wants commiecare?
I hope that patriots can get the non-RINO Republican presidential nominee up to speed with the following excerpts relating to Obamacare. The excerpts are from Supreme Court case opinions and clearly show that lawless Obamas activist justices wrongly ignored case precedents which indicate that virtually every aspect of Obamacare is unconstitutional.
State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. [emphases added] Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Inspection laws, quarantine laws, health laws of every description [emphasis added], as well as laws for regulating the internal commerce of a state and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c., are component parts of this mass. Justice Barbour, New York v. Miln., 1837.
4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce [emphasis added] within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract of indemnity against loss. Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
Direct control of medical practice in the states is obviously [emphases added] beyond the power of Congress. Linder v. United States, 1925.
I think it would be great if the non-RINO Republican presidential nominee gets the chance to mention these excerpts in a nationally televised debate with the Democratic nominee.
Getting back to Sanders, since Sanders is evidently a low-information senator, please consider this. Note that the question of the constitutionality of Obamacare should never have have made it to the Supreme Court. More specifically, senators should be protecting their states from unconstitutional bills, such as the one that established Obamacare, by killing them, since thats one of the main reasons why the Founding States established the Senate.
The problem is that corrupt, low-information, post-17th Amendment ratification senators unsurprisingly failed to their job to protect the states from unconstitutional Obamacare by failing to kill it while it was still just a bill.
And with major problems relating to the 17th Amendment in mind, lets consider how patriots can clean up the corrupt, Senate-confirmed Supreme Court. Patriots need to support the Republican nominee by doing their best to elect a 2/3 conservative supermajority to the Senate. A supermajority-controlled Senate will be able to work with the House to impeach and remove Obamas activist justices from the bench after the 16 elections.
The ill-conceived 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and corrupt senators who fail to protect their states by not only passing unconstitutional legislation, but also by confirming activist justices who later declare the unconstitutional laws that the senators helped to pass to be constitutional along with it.
“The answer is called cross-state competition, Bernie.”
What exactly is “cross-state competition”?
There’s no restriction on any companies to sell insurance in ANY state, they just need to comply with state laws.
In other words, each state passed their own laws requiring what insurance policies have to cover, as well as other requirements.
So when you hear “cross state competition” what the hell does that mean? That an insurance policy that complies with Arizona’s insurance laws can now be sold in California, which may have stricter laws?
Or do you mean that each state can no longer have their own insurance laws, that there are only laws at the federal level that apply to all the states?
I would think that would be very non-conservative since it’s against state’s rights.
So what does “cross state competition” mean?
Obamacare is not quite “Single Payer” but it does throw the whole system into chaos. That is a source of ambiguity to Sanders who would have preferred Single Payer. The chaos is nice, too, and he would be hesitant to break from it while it is doing his cause so much good.
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