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Justice Kennedy: Christians with convictions resigned under Hitler and they should today too
LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/29/15 | Father Mark Hodges

Posted on 10/29/2015 10:34:54 AM PDT by wagglebee

CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts, October 29, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy told a Harvard Law School audience that government employees with religious convictions about marriage should resign.

The Ronald Reagan appointee said on Wednesday that if a public official has a moral objection to homosexuality, he must either follow the law or quit public service.

The judge's comment came in answer to a question a student asked about government officials who disagree with the Supreme Court's decisions on gay marriage, or abortion, and if those citizens have the constitutional right to act according to their sincerely held moral beliefs.

Kennedy replied that no, they do not have the right to refuse to comply with the law. 

Curiously, Kennedy cited as buttressing his point the fact that few judges resigned under the Third Reich. "How many judges, do you think, resigned in the Third Reich?" Kennedy asked, to the response of silence in the great hall. He answered his own question by raising three fingers.

At one point, his words made quitting sound noble: "Great respect, it seems to me, has to be given to people who resign rather than do something they view as morally wrong, in order to make a point."

The justice admitted that Christians who must "enforce a law that they believe is morally corrupt" face "difficult moral questions." "However," he said, "the rule of law is that, as a public official, in performing your legal duties, you are bound to enforce the law."

Responses from Christian leaders noted the irony of saying that for public employees, the moral thing to do is follow immorality. Kennedy made no mention of religious convictions as actual, universal truths.

Liberty Counsel Chairman Mat Staver commented to LifeSiteNews, "Unjust laws should be resisted." "The history of the United States includes non-compliance, even by presidents, to immoral laws."

Staver told LifeSiteNews, "Religious freedom and conscience should be protected."  In fact, Staver said, morality requires the reverse of what Kennedy advocated. "Justices or judges who disregard the Constitution and impose their own will should resign."

Gay activists were quick to applaud. The online journal The New Civil Rights Movement reported that Justice Kennedy "left no wiggle room for the 'religious accommodation' the renegade Kentucky clerks are demanding for themselves."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: anthonykennedy; cambridge; christians; culturewars; cwii; fascism; gaykkk; homosexualagenda; libertarians; massachusetts; matstaver; medicalmarijuana; moralabsolutes; nazism; samesexmarriage; scotus; totalitarianism; usconstitution
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To: wagglebee
"Great respect, it seems to me, has to be given to people who resign rather than do something they view as morally wrong, in order to make a point."

I do recall Dietrich Bonhoeffer took a decidedly different approach in that he saw a moral, as well as Biblical, justifications to participate in murder plots against Hitler

Many of the Jews unwittingly 'resigned' themselves to their fate as they did not believe what was occurring would lead to where it did.

Sorry Kennedy, resigning is not an option.

21 posted on 10/29/2015 10:43:21 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: wagglebee

So...is Kennedy implying that today’s judiciary and federal government are like Hitler?


22 posted on 10/29/2015 10:43:32 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: wagglebee

Judges without convictions should resign too. That wouldn’t include Kennedy.


23 posted on 10/29/2015 10:43:36 AM PDT by boycott
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To: wagglebee
"How many judges, do you think, resigned in the Third Reich?" Kennedy asked, to the response of silence in the great hall. He answered his own question by raising three fingers.

Apparently there weren't many Christians in Germany before the war. I don't think there are many there now, either.

Now, notice that in the entire US, only Kim Davis refused to violate her Christian conscience. Thats one out of, how many? That is a depressing figure.

Moral imbeciles issue their decrees, and the vast unwashed multitudes shrug and obey.

24 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:07 AM PDT by marron
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To: wagglebee

How about Democrats that are for open borders? They openly refuse to obey America’s immigration laws.

Democrats are allowed to follow their convictions, but Christians aren’t?

Maybe Christians just believe the United States’ Marriage laws are broken.


25 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:22 AM PDT by Vic S
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To: wagglebee

I once heard Chuck Colson call Kennedy the most dangerous man in America. This demonstrates what he meant.

Hey Kennedy, the law in Kentucky, as passed by their duly elected representatives, was that marriage was between a man and a woman.

What you’re talking about is not the rule of law, but a tyrannical fiat from a judicial oligarchy.

We need to fight the judicial tyranny in this country as much as we fight the executive tyranny.


26 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:24 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: wagglebee

No problem. People in public opposed to the 2nd amendment should likewise quit as it is beyond mere law. It’s a right.


27 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:30 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Embrace "Existential Cage Theory")
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To: wagglebee

kennedy sure knows what he wants.

by definition:

resignation == surrender.

surrender == death.

make them impeach. make them fire. make them confront their own evil.


28 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:45 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: wagglebee

“Separation of church and state” is IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION.

“Congress shall make NO LAW respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” (1st Amendment) IS IN the Constitution.

The feds are prohibited from interfering with religion including establishing a state church. Free exercise of religion is NOT to be prohibited inside or outside government. The prohibition is EXCLUSIVELY on the FEDS NOT RELIGIOUS EXERCISE inside or outside government.

The monuments and carvings all over Washington D.C. and around the state buildings country testify against the heresy and unconstitutional doctrine of “separation of church and state’ which was spawned in hell. Those who advocate such, like Kennedy here, are running hell’s errands.


29 posted on 10/29/2015 10:44:49 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: wagglebee

There should have been a revolution before Hitler went too far. A rebellion like that wouldn’t work out well for foolish judges.


30 posted on 10/29/2015 10:45:01 AM PDT by boycott
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To: wagglebee
that if a public official has a moral objection to homosexuality, he must either follow the law or quit public service.

Does that apply to laws like the Defense of Marriage Act and public officials like judges?

31 posted on 10/29/2015 10:45:11 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: boycott
Judges without convictions should resign too

I would welcome to see Kennedy convicted. That would get him off SCOTUS.

;)

32 posted on 10/29/2015 10:45:36 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (This tagline lists all of Hilary's accomplishments............................)
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To: wagglebee

So, what he’s saying is that Obama is Hitler, and that when he (Kennedy) wrote that decision he became one of Hitler’s enablers.

I don’t think Roberts is dumb. He couldn’t have said anything that stupid by accident. We all know, or are 99% certain, that he wrote that decision because he was blackmailed into it, presumably with the threat to take away his adopted Irish children.

The Nuremberg Trials found that it’s not enough to say you are bound to follow the laws, no matter what. Not when the laws in question and the people who make them are just plain evil.


33 posted on 10/29/2015 10:46:06 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jacquerie

How about those who are both morally and religiously opposed to the second amendment? Should they resign too?


34 posted on 10/29/2015 10:46:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Everyone to the left of those on FR are the radicals. It's our country.)
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To: wagglebee

Kennedy is drawing similarites to the horrors of Nazi Germany to the horrors of Obama’s America.

“If you don’t like homosexual marriages or killing Jews, then you should resign!”

This man is one depraved POS.


35 posted on 10/29/2015 10:46:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: wagglebee
What is the law, here, is still very much in dispute. The Supreme Court ruling was the case law, as applicable to that case. It will doubtless be used as a precedent for a time, in other cases; but it is not the "law," in the sense the context here would imply.

Can the Court turn the sun into the moon, simply by decreeing that it is so? That basically is the ultimate question. The whole concept of marriage has to do with the multi-generational pursuits of a social order to sanctify procreation; to build and protect the status of family continuity. Obviously, seen from that obvious basis, the very concept of "same-sex" marriage is an oxymoron.

Perhaps Justice Kennedy would have been better advised--if he cares about his reputation--to have left his sanctimony in his office at the Court.

36 posted on 10/29/2015 10:46:12 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: wagglebee

Where would that leave us? A government completely controlled by lefty liberal atheists. NO.


37 posted on 10/29/2015 10:46:51 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Mr. K

“...like not having to deliver beer when you go to work for a beer delivery company”

I’m thinking more along the lines of muslim women working at Hooter’s. /s


38 posted on 10/29/2015 10:48:35 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: Dr. Sivana

The same way it is going to end here. With the total destruction of the United States, as with Germany. When it will happen, I can’t day. Different poisons work at different speeds.


39 posted on 10/29/2015 10:48:47 AM PDT by sport
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To: Dr. Sivana

Most of them wound up dangling from a length of piano wire around their necks or on a guillotine!


40 posted on 10/29/2015 10:48:48 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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