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Team Trump and Team Carson Organize Non-RNC Debate Meeting…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 10/30/15 | Sundance

Posted on 10/30/2015 8:14:22 AM PDT by Amntn

This could be a YUGE shift amid the 2016 political continuum. According to media reports the Donald Trump and Ben Carson camps are currently organizing a meeting to discuss future debates.

The RNC is not currently invited.

There are two aspects inherent within this dynamic that cannot be over emphasized:

* First - Similar to the DNC tactics, by RNC Rule the candidates are barred from participating in, or organizing, debates that are outside of the Republican National Committee.

* Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, the RNC is Team Bush.

The RNC, as a current political construct, is a wholly owned subsidiary of the political dynasty known as the Bush Family. Currently, Jeb Bush is the candidate of the Bush family, and by extension the candidate of the RNC. Understanding this political dynamic is key to understanding the RNC/GOPe road map to nominate their candidate regardless of political opposition therein.

If Trump and Carson gather up enough support to strike against the RNC/GOPe apparatus there will be an internal war similar to the war within the republican party in 1978/1979. You might remember candidate Ronald Reagan organizing and paying for debates too.

When you combine this reality with the strategic deal-making acumen of Donald Trump, the scope of the needed popcorn buckets increases exponentially.

It is interesting, and brutally obvious to note, the Bush Team are absent from the initial media announcement:

[...] On Thursday, many of the campaigns told POLITICO that the RNC, which has taken a greater role in the 2016 debate process than in previous election cycles, had failed to take their concerns into account. It was time, top aides to at least half a dozen of the candidates agreed, to begin discussing among themselves how the next debates should be structured and not leave it up to the RNC and television networks.

The gathering is being organized by advisers to the campaigns of Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham, according to multiple sources involved in the planning. Others who are expected to attend, organizers say, are representatives for Carly Fiorina, Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Rick Santorum. The planners are also reaching out to other Republican candidates.

Spokespersons for the RNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

"I think the campaigns have a number of concerns and they have a right to talk about that amongst themselves," said Christian Ferry, Graham's campaign manager. The objective, Ferry said, was to "find out what works best for us as a group."

The RNC/GOPe are in a tight spot, and because Jeb Bush has his back against the wall, due to recent campaign/debate collapses, their ability to influence other candidates away from the meeting and subsequent conversation only adds additional leverage toward Team Trump and Team Carson.

This will be interesting...

A Possibility - Given the nature of their business interests and specific experience with broadcast production and media etc., it would be entirely possible for Team Trump to coordinate an independent debate format controlled and coordinated by people within his network group and contracted to meet the needs of each campaign.

Team Trump knows how to put on the event, how to coordinate the entire venture, and how to contract -for profit- the broadcast rights to any media outlet of their collective choosing. The campaigns would not only be in control of the venue, moderators and debate format, they could effectively profit from the associated revenue.

It would be beyond wonderful to see the RNC apparatus removed from the business end of selling their candidates to piranha left-wing media.

Obviously this would expose the RNC/GOPe machine to a loss of control and power. As a consequence, Team Bush would not look favorably upon such a possibility.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; carson; cnbc; debate; debates; election2016; elections; nbc; newyork; reincepriebus; rnc; trump
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To: PhilDragoo

Right!
Or perhaps Col. Allen West.
NO woman either, except Governor Sarah Palin!


141 posted on 10/30/2015 11:17:13 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE MAKE YOUR DONATION NOW - GO MONTHLY IF YOU POSSIBLY & RELIABLY CAN!)
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To: polymuser

We may be witnessing a Whig party moment here. Trump has the popularity, personality, and resources to break the establishment in a way nobody else has had since Reagan took them on back in 1976. In 1979 the party apparatus backed down rather than split the party. But I don’t think that “Team Bush” at the RNC will back down and accept Trump as their leader.


142 posted on 10/30/2015 11:28:50 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

HA!


143 posted on 10/30/2015 11:32:42 AM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: JEDI4S
Rancid Pubies: YOU’RE FIRED !

How many times can a guy so screw up and keep his job?

144 posted on 10/30/2015 11:45:03 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Amntn; Balding_Eagle; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Bobalu; bonfire; Caipirabob; conservativejoy; ...
Given [their]... experience with broadcast production and media etc., it would be entirely possible for Team Trump to coordinate an independent debate ... Team Trump knows how to... coordinate the entire venture, and how to contract... broadcast rights to any media outlet of their collective choosing. The campaigns would not only be in control of the venue, moderators and debate format, they could effectively profit from the associated revenue.

It is my fondest dream to see Trump succeed all the way to the presidency. But if he should fail to go the distance, my second fondest dream is that after the campaign season, he would develop a media channel that would take the place that FoxNews formerly occupied when it was "fair and balanced" -- or even to create a conservative news site with great marketing and programming. If he doesn't do it himself, perhaps because he's in the White House, maybe one of his four adult children or various wives could head it up.

Fox News Lurches Left as Murdoch's Sons Take Control of Media Dynasty

145 posted on 10/30/2015 11:54:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Amntn

Trump is so freaking smart who really knows who he would pick. We are so used to saying a minority or other candidate we just can’t think out of the box like Trump. Looking forward to the pick. Maybe Ivanka!


146 posted on 10/30/2015 11:57:12 AM PDT by pangaea6
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To: Albion Wilde

After Trump does his 8 years as POTUS, I wouldn’t doubt one bit that the media is a whole lot different than what we see today, or they simply won’t be in business...

Look what he did to FNC...we boycotted for him, brought them to their knees...and we’ll do it again for him...

We are going to have so many wins with President Trump we are going to lose our voices from cheering so much and how much fun that is going to be....


147 posted on 10/30/2015 11:58:11 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: Guenevere
You're showing Cruz... but clearly the article emphasizes Trump/Carson

Yet should Trump win the presidency, Cruz and Carson are 99% certain to occupy a leading role in Trump's administration due to their great capabilities. Cruz and Carson are both surpassingly intelligent and wise in their responses to media goading, and refuse to badmouth any of the other candidates, focusing instead on the issues and thereby keeping their options open to accept a role in the next Republican administration, no matter who wins. They are classy, classy men and I pray that their careers on the national stage are long and deeply influential.

Cruz in particular is 26 years younger than Trump; if he loses the nomination to Trump, Cruz will undoubtedly be placed prominently in the pipeline to future high office.

148 posted on 10/30/2015 12:02:36 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Amntn; FredZarguna

Absolutely agree!
In case you haven’t noticed, FZ....Trump IS NOT politically correct!


149 posted on 10/30/2015 12:07:49 PM PDT by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Guenevere; Amntn
Nonsense.

There are plenty of blacks, Latinos, Latinas, women, people from swing states, or whatever you want to name who are well qualified to become President and will provide political advantage as well. IF Trump gets the nomination, he's going to "balance" the ticket; because the truth is: the Vice Presidency is a completely worthless job unless the President dies, and everyone knows that except for Low Information Voters.

150 posted on 10/30/2015 12:25:54 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Reading this tagline over an extended period of time causes cancer.)
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To: BigEdLB
Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Steyn, Ingraham, and Van Sustren

Brit Hume, Daniel Greenfield, Dennis Prager, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Dinesh D'Souza, Harrison Faulkner, Diana West, Bernie Goldberg, Jeff Sessions, Tom Coburn, Condoleezza Rice, John Bolton, David Horowitz, Mike Adams, William J. Bennett, Liz Cheney, Allen West, Kenneth Timmerman, Oliver North, Ben Shapiro, Robert Spencer, John O'Neill, Marvin Olasky, Betsy McCaughey, Brian C. Anderson, Victor Davis Hanson, John Leo, Kay S. Hymowitz, John Whitehead, Debbie Schlussel, Evan Sayet, Tommy Franks, Clint Eastwood, Jim Robinson.

Just off the top of my head.

151 posted on 10/30/2015 12:44:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: FredZarguna; Guenevere

Sorry Fred. You are thinking in old political terms and Trump has turned that on it’s head.

I say he will pick a vice president the same way he hires vice president’s for his company.

I also think the roll of the vice president would change in a Trump presidency.

He is a business man. He will utilize all talent available to it’s fullest potential.


152 posted on 10/30/2015 12:45:07 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: ElainaVer
Do you remember Trump’s response in the debate when he said he never forgot or forgave when someone did him wrong (my paraphrasing). I don’t think he said that without a strong intent to get that message to a special person or entity.

I did hear that as a telegraphed warning. Loved it.

153 posted on 10/30/2015 12:50:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: ozarkgirl
I think they'll make up the rules, pick the moderators, get the rest of the team on board and then go to the RNC and say "we're all agreed, we're not showing up unless you do this..." And that is the kind of President Trump will be. He's "the negotiator". :)

Yes, yours is easily the best assessment.

154 posted on 10/30/2015 12:54:10 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: taildragger

Lordy, not The Blaze. Beck has a terminal case of TDS.


155 posted on 10/30/2015 1:02:42 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: HarleyLady27
Look what he did to FNC...we boycotted for him, brought them to their knees...and we’ll do it again for him...

Macy's took a big hit, too -- 30,000 people cut up their cards and sent them to Macy's. The Macy's closest to me is now closing. Hope the libs are quaking in their booties!

156 posted on 10/30/2015 1:09:19 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: RinaseaofDs; Jane Long; DannyTN; Amntn; V_TWIN; going hot; conservativejoy; HarleyLady27; ...

Ping to post 151.


157 posted on 10/30/2015 1:11:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

No Hume. He hates both Trump and Cruz. How about Sheryl Attkinson?


158 posted on 10/30/2015 1:14:35 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Albion Wilde

NO!!!! To Brit Hume and Bernie Goldberg


159 posted on 10/30/2015 1:15:51 PM PDT by Guenevere (If.the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Albion Wilde

Some of those folks are virulently anti-Trump like Prager, Hume, Shapiro... We need fairness. Neutral opinion for all candidates.


160 posted on 10/30/2015 1:18:00 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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