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Losing our grip: More students entering school without fine motor skills
Lancaster Online ^ | Oct 26, 2015 | KIMBERLY MARSELAS

Posted on 11/03/2015 3:15:12 AM PST by Maceman

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To: Maceman

Kindergarten kids showing up without the capacity to draw.

We’re dooooomed.


21 posted on 11/03/2015 4:43:36 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Maceman

Nothing like good old fashioned playing to develop motor skills - the more we protect our kids from the chance of getting a boo-boo, the more we atrophy their lifelong survival skills.


22 posted on 11/03/2015 4:47:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Maceman

Kids are not playing as much. Everything is so damned structure.


23 posted on 11/03/2015 4:49:15 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ETL

Weird.

I went to school in the 80s and answered the first question.

Then again, I went to elementary in a mostly rural area in conservative west Michigan, so there was no social promotion.


24 posted on 11/03/2015 4:50:32 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ETL

Last year an episode of “Doctor Who” did a bit based on that. The doctors companion was a history teacher who was dating a math teacher at her school. They did a little bit about “find X” with the students and a girl said it’s right there at the top, can’t you see it?

LOL

CC


25 posted on 11/03/2015 4:51:59 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: VanDeKoik

Math wasn’t my strong point but I agree that the rural schools were considerably better here in MI into the 80s.


26 posted on 11/03/2015 4:54:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Jack Hammer

It isn’t just kindergartners not being able to draw:

Students Not Ready for College

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/education-july-dec05-sat_8-30/


27 posted on 11/03/2015 5:00:19 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: cripplecreek

yes....when I was young all I heard was “get out of the house”, winter, summer, go and play outside, and we did, went swimming in the summer, ice skating in the winter, never a dull moment...


28 posted on 11/03/2015 5:02:16 AM PST by B212
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To: Maceman

I’m teaching high school this year, and I have 9th graders who can’t seem to cut decently with scissors, or draw a straight line. I am concerned.


29 posted on 11/03/2015 5:09:46 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: ilovesarah2012

Not ready for college, I’ll buy.

But kindergarten is a stretch.


30 posted on 11/03/2015 5:14:13 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Maceman

Electronics and common core and “making everything safe” are ruining our kids.


31 posted on 11/03/2015 5:18:57 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: EinNYC
Many times you have to coax them not to just walk out of the classroom or to remain in their seats. You have to ask them to open their notebooks and encourage them to read short passages... These kids act like it's a death sentence to have to read a few passages and then--oh horrors!--write a few paragraphs. You have to specify that the paragraphs must consist of complete sentences, too.

You just described my 11th grade American Lit class. And they aren't even "ghetto," they're in what is considered a relatively decent, stable neighborhood in L.A. It's entirely Hispanic, but it's not ghetto. But yes, they behave the same way. I say, "Take out your composition book and open to the next blank page of your notes, we're going to take some notes summarizing what we've read so far." And more than half of them just sit there. You have to make eye contact, say their name, repeat, insist, ask, say please, say hurry, say let's go, say I'm waiting for you, Josue! It takes 5-10 minutes each time.

They honestly don't think they should have to do anything. Everything should just be given to them. They are gradually making me despise them to the very depths of my being. I'm hoping to maintain a pleasant demeanor for 5 and a half more years and retire without letting them know what I really think.

32 posted on 11/03/2015 5:22:06 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: VanDeKoik
Weird. I went to school in the 80s and answered the first question. Then again, I went to elementary in a mostly rural area in conservative west Michigan, so there was no social promotion.

That of course was an exaggeration of the problem that does exist.

33 posted on 11/03/2015 5:34:09 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: rdcbn

My youngest was born at 35 weeks, after having the water break at 15 weeks.

We have had a battery of testing to make sure Little Bear is ok. She just had a check up yesterday. The only concern? She doesn’t color. My wife told the doctor that the last time we gave a one year old crayons, she tried to color the dog (and he let her!), so that one is on us.

Little Bear will throw a ball, put shapes into slots, and loves legos. All things the occupational therapist told us she shouldn’t be able to do till age 3 or so because of the stressful pregnancy.

I think the difference is we work with her, and don’t just let her lay on the floor watching TV. Same with he older sister, though they did say she had “Fine motor issues”.

The issue was she wanted to go to recess, and the test person said she could go once she was done. So she stopped drawing and ran outside.


34 posted on 11/03/2015 5:38:40 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Maceman

Meanwhile the rate of vaccinations goes up and up and up.


35 posted on 11/03/2015 5:41:49 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Maceman

Many enter school with no potty skills, table manners, and speaking skills as well. Most children in the poorest homes were taught the basics of civilization during the hard scrabble ‘20s and ‘30s, something sadly lacking in our society today. However, having no moral training is the most dehumanizing lack of all.


36 posted on 11/03/2015 5:51:46 AM PST by txrefugee
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The prevailing views of society have caused toys to be either politically incorrect or dangerous. Sometimes the kids are left to develop fine motor skills by picking their noses.

Kids are abandoned to play video games, with little else remaining in their "toy kit" and very little outdoor activity.

Other than that, everything is the same.

37 posted on 11/03/2015 5:53:51 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Varda

Hard to imagine how anyone could abandon (yeah, I said it) a tiny baby, dependent on others for it’s sustenance, to a place where maybe they might pick it up 3-4 times in eight hours. Ever been to a baby room at your standard day-care? It’d break your heart.

Mrs.AV


38 posted on 11/03/2015 5:54:42 AM PST by Atomic Vomit (http://www.cafepress.com/aroostookbeauty/358829)
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To: randita

When I started school back in 1952, I did not know letters or numbers. I was straight off an isolated High Plains ranch.

My folks took me to Kindergarten, found that school had no kindergarten and enrolled me in the first grade, under aged. I struggled for 12 years to keep up. Graduated when I was 17.


39 posted on 11/03/2015 5:56:26 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: cripplecreek
Are we talking about kindergarten, or Sparta? lol

My grandson won't enter kindergarten until next year, as he's a September baby...he's five now.

I think he does enough at pre-school to develop those fine motor skills. When he's at our house, all he wants to do is play football and a card matching game called Rush Zone.

After all, football is a religion in Texas. lol

40 posted on 11/03/2015 5:56:49 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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