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Ben Carson (Video): "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point" (Oct 9, 2015) | Charlie Rose
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Posted on 11/06/2015 12:17:39 PM PST by springwater13

Dr. Ben Carson�‹'s statement on "Charlie Rose" on October 9th, 2015. Video

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Connecticut; US: Florida; US: New York; US: Texas
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To: Godebert

Colin Powell [whew! we missed that bullet]

Condi Rice

Herman Cain

Ben Carson


81 posted on 11/06/2015 1:58:23 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: libbylu

Honestly, I am ready for his tax plan. And I don’t mean his team slightly modifying the plan Trump has had out there for a while.

I am ready for his immigration plans. I am ready for his trade policy plans. I am ready for his plans to grow the economy. I am ready for his plans for the military. Is Trump the only one willing to take a position on issues?

I am ready for a little substance. Honestly, he’s offered less substance than Rick Santorum. If Santorum was black, he would have received at least this amount of attention. And, honestly, Santorum has put up at least as much substance.

Carson is a good and nice man. He’s not leading on issues. The issues that he does talk about, like ethanol, only makes me want him less.

Time for substance.


82 posted on 11/06/2015 2:01:02 PM PST by boycott
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To: superfries

By 'they' you mean the Media. Is it one particular Media or all of them?

If Westmoreland was not even there, this story is a complete fabrication and will end the Doctor's trek to be president.


83 posted on 11/06/2015 2:04:12 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: superfries

The media hasn’t done this kind of legwork since they were drilling deep into Obama’s past. I still marvel at how he thought he could get away with all of the inconsistencies in his birth documents with this pit bull press. We were *this* close to an Obama presidency until they got to work!


84 posted on 11/06/2015 2:05:16 PM PST by Rastus
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To: springwater13

Guy phoned into Rush, Nov 6 2015

Guy enlisted in the Army. Had been in for 2 years (?)
1981, the Army was desperate to rebuild the forces.
Some Army recruiter requested a meeting. The recruiter stated the Guy, and no one else in his group, would be admitted to Westpoint upon aplication. The Army needed a Ten year commitment.

The Guy turned down the offer cause 10 years seemed like forever.

The Guy told rush he regrets that decision to turn down Westpoint


85 posted on 11/06/2015 2:36:31 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Godebert

I don’t have white guilt. That’s just a stupid thing to say.


86 posted on 11/06/2015 2:45:00 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman

Ya, and some of your best friends are black.


87 posted on 11/06/2015 3:07:29 PM PST by Godebert
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

*There is no such thing as “scholarships” to service academies..


If Westmoreland tells a 17 or 18 year old that he can get him in to one of the service academies, then yes, it is similar to offering him a scholarship. This is believable. I am sure that many Generals make kids similar offers. In reality it isn’t a scholarship, but we reasonable people realize the distinction is very important.


88 posted on 11/06/2015 3:38:17 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Blueflag
I wasn't even in ROTC but in high school knew that to get into West Point a senator had to recommend you.

And no one thinks Hillary is honest about a single thing, nor do I think she would fare well against Trump, Carson, Cruz, or Rubio (but Rubio would be the easiest). That's why we need her in the race.

89 posted on 11/06/2015 3:56:42 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: superfries

thanks for the, who did you put it, “supposed” correction.

The following is corroborated by two independent sources. Carson misremembered the day. Otherwise everything lines up pretty nicely. This is a substantial validation of a person’s memory.

The Army records and Detroit News archival records show Westmoreland was in Detroit on Feb. 18, 1969, for a dinner honoring a Vietnam War veteran. The banquet was for Congressional Medal of Honor winner Dwight Johnson, a Detroit African-American who risked his life “beyond the call of duty,” according to a website about black participation in the Vietnam War.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/06/carsons-westmoreland-story-match-records/75328960/


90 posted on 11/06/2015 5:39:41 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: springwater13

Remember the credible (FBI) rape charge against Bill Clinton? And how the press went nuts over it?

Oh wait, the press didn’t give a damn... about that or any other crime committed by democrats.


91 posted on 11/06/2015 5:44:58 PM PST by GOPJ (policy debates rather then journalists clowns posturing and mugging for their fellow journalistsMNJ.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Blueflag
Yep, a NROTC scholarship isn’t the same as an appointment to one of the 4 military academies.

True, but the academy in question does use the S-word.

Note how the pitch omits mention of the post-graduation service commitment. They're the government, so full disclosure does not apply to them.

92 posted on 11/06/2015 7:19:06 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cornfedcowboy
I believe that Westmoreland mentioned to Ben Carson that he could get in to West Point.

Where does Carson say that the offer came directly from Westmoreland?

93 posted on 11/06/2015 7:42:35 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Redmen4ever

the “supposed’ was my emphasis ......I meant it to come off as the the way the media was reporting it. I did not mean that Carson supposedly claimed to have been at dinner with Westmoreland.

Glad to hear that the date was wrong and all of it checks out.


94 posted on 11/06/2015 8:17:01 PM PST by superfries
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To: Rastus

no doubt about that:)


95 posted on 11/06/2015 8:17:31 PM PST by superfries
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To: TomGuy

So apparently Carson got the date wrong and records now confirm the real date of the dinner.


96 posted on 11/06/2015 8:18:35 PM PST by superfries
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To: LS
I agree, but it raises the question that someone in the ROTC program he was in certainly should have known how West Point works.

Of course he knew how admission to West Point works.

The problem was, he wanted to be a doctor, which meant he needed to be in med school after college, not on active duty in the US Army. That's why he declined the Army's offer to get him into West Point and instead applied to Yale.

There's nothing deceptive in his account.

Worthless RINOs like O'Reilly think it's necessary to reach across the aisle to be in the no-spin zone and therefore call Carson a liar over fine semantic distinctions.

97 posted on 11/06/2015 8:36:28 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: BuckeyeTexan; humblegunner; Darksheare; Old Sarge

N00B springwater13’s posting history, net presence ... prolly paid troll. Radar up.


98 posted on 11/06/2015 9:34:49 PM PST by glock rocks (I don't always talk to liberals, but when I do, I order the large fries.)
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To: glock rocks

That’s exactly what it looks like to me.


99 posted on 11/06/2015 9:45:53 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: springwater13
Read the second to the last page on the West Point prospectus at

http://www.westpoint.edu/admissions/shared%20documents/wp_prospectus.pdf

IT STATES:

ADMISSIONS DECISIONS

West Point has a rolling admissions policy. Outstanding, qualified, nominated candidates will be offered admission as their records become complete. All admissions files must be complete, to include nominations, by the last workday in February.

Financial and Service Obligation

As a cadet, you are a member of the U.S. Army and receive a full scholarship and an annual salary of more than $10,000 from which you pay for your uniforms, textbooks, a laptop computer, and incidentals. There is no tuition charge, but there is a requirement for an initial deposit. Room, board, and medical and dental care are provided by the United States Government.

100 posted on 11/06/2015 10:12:55 PM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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