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Knife fight: Trump ad asks if Carson is a 'violent criminal or pathological liar'
The Washington Examiner ^ | 11/13/2015 | Al Weaver

Posted on 11/13/2015 9:26:06 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

Donald Trump hit Ben Carson in a new Instagram ad, in which he wondered if his fellow GOP front-runner is a "violent criminal" or a "pathological liar."

The ad, released in honor of Friday the 13th, features an old Carson interview where he describes an incident in his childhood when he tried to stab someone in the abdomen. The Carson clip is followed by a clip of an old neighbor of his who said he never knew Carson to be that violent of a person.

Directly following, Trump's team asks whether or not Carson is a "violent criminal or a pathological liar," adding that "we don't need either as president."

Spooky music plays throughout the ad, playing off Friday being Friday the 13th.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2016trump; bizarre; carson; elections; trump
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To: kgrif_Salinas

And you think you would make a good President? Do you have things in your past you don’t want people to find out about? You want to stand up to the World and have everyone and their dogs vette you?

No I didn’t think so, that’s why you are where you are now, and I am here now...politics are diry, and mean and rotten, and if you can’t take the vetting now, you don’t have any reason to be standing on the World stage and running for POTUS....

Trump is the real deal, he is a MAN, he doesn’t go around in a soft voice, he’s from New York, Christies is from New Jersey, after living in the East for 17 years, they don’t talk quite, they carry their voice and don’t cross them, they are not nice when you do....Trump doesn’t say a word about anyone unless they say something about him, that’s life...

I would rather have a person like Trump standing up for us than some soft spoken liar....


121 posted on 11/13/2015 12:16:34 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: RitaOK

We’ll know if it worked when the primaries kick off.


122 posted on 11/13/2015 12:17:01 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: HarleyLady27

OK, then...

Rubio is not my favorite — but, as you said, he REPAID the money he borrowed. So: debate point to me.

I know the “missed votes” charge plays well with the Bushies and with the Hillary-bots, but I am not aware that Rubio missed any important vote at all. Please inform me — if any such vote actually occurred. If you can’t, I’m sorry, but you lose another debate point.

Finally, you said “Rubio...needs a million dollars a day to live”. Would you care to re-calculate that number?


123 posted on 11/13/2015 12:17:23 PM PST by pfony1
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To: HarleyLady27

OK, then...

Rubio is not my favorite — but, as you said, he REPAID the money he borrowed. So: debate point to me.

I know the “missed votes” charge plays well with the Bushies and with the Hillary-bots, but I am not aware that Rubio missed any important vote at all. Please inform me — if any such vote actually occurred. If you can’t, I’m sorry, but you lose another debate point.

Finally, you said “Rubio...needs a million dollars a day to live”. Would you care to re-calculate that number?


124 posted on 11/13/2015 12:17:57 PM PST by pfony1
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To: Red Steel; HarleyLady27; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; RitaOK; Lib-Lickers 2; Yashcheritsiy; Jane Long

Prescient video find based on the news from Iowa.
Needs to be a thread by itself.


125 posted on 11/13/2015 12:23:17 PM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: HoosierDammit

Everyone knows that gambling and alcohol and crime often mix.

But Mr. Trump has passed several review boards that found him “clean”.

So I doubt Hillary has anything in her bag of dirty tricks that she can use to smear Mr. Trump.


126 posted on 11/13/2015 12:27:43 PM PST by pfony1
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To: HoosierDammit

Everyone knows that gambling and alcohol and crime often mix.

But Mr. Trump has passed several review boards that found him “clean”.

So I doubt Hillary has anything in her bag of dirty tricks that she can use to smear Mr. Trump.


127 posted on 11/13/2015 12:28:19 PM PST by pfony1
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

“I had a large camping knife and I tried to stab him in the abdomen”

The key word is TRIED not “thought about”. The guy IS pathological. How many of you ever tried to stab someone in the gut? I’m not talking about combat vets, I’m talking about civilian life. Never even crossed my mind and I’ve been in plenty of fights, absolutely unthinkable to do that but he DID IT.


128 posted on 11/13/2015 12:32:06 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (B. Hussein Obama: 20 acts of Treason and counting.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I like Cruz but I could vote for Trump if he is the nominee.
I like Carson too. I don’t think the Donald needs to go there with this kind of attack. This is not good. He needs to stay on his own message that’s been working. It’s time to move on and stick it to Hiliary and the Dems.


129 posted on 11/13/2015 12:33:22 PM PST by SMM48
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To: Dick Bachert

Yes, we will see. The delegate war will be shaping up.

Is this what you were talking about(?)— that the Rules for delegates have already been nicely reshaped to advantage and insulate the GOP insider from outsiders, fighting for the nomination, ala Romney folks buying out the National and state Committees against RON PAUL in 2012?

Ron Paul helped expose all the corruption we are going to be facing. And now, we hear the GOP will be preferring Hillary, if they can not resurrect Jebbers Bush. Great job.

So, yes, barring outright corruption for raising delegate rules to a level that inspires a French kiss from the nasty GOP, there could be trouble, I will give you that.

TRUMP looks to come out of Iowa and NH in decent shape and is hardly horrified by his numbers in South Carolina. When we get to Florida we hope to let loose with canon fire to blow up the GOP permanently.

We intend to get back to conservative representation in the numbers it deserves. No more back of the bus stuff for us.

Interesting that Trump draws moderates and very quietly also Democrat “little people” out of the East Coast. Jeb and Hillary neither one really attract the enthusiasm of anyone, including those little people on the Democrat side of the aisle, in the Northeast quadrant.


130 posted on 11/13/2015 12:36:25 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: entropy12

Thanks entropy!


131 posted on 11/13/2015 12:38:03 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: entropy12; Red Steel; HarleyLady27; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; RitaOK; Lib-Lickers 2; Yashcheritsiy; ..

Now this....

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-13/carson-advisor-shut-out-as-campaign-rises


132 posted on 11/13/2015 12:49:11 PM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: HarleyLady27

I kinda doubt Cruz would compare the incurability of Carson’s pathology to that of a child molester.


133 posted on 11/13/2015 12:50:01 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: pfony1

Could Rubio’s Past Slip-Ups Haunt a White House Bid?

http://www.motherjones.com/

During his years in Florida, Marco Rubio seemed to have quite a few “clerical errors.”

Every day seems to bring Florida Sen. Marco Rubio closer to a presidential run. In recent weeks, the first-term senator has toured the early primary states, including Iowa and New Hampshire, to promote his new, and very presidential-sounding book, American Dreams: Restoring Economic Opportunity for Everyone.

A talented orator, a Spanish speaker, and a legislator from a key swing state, Rubio could be a strong GOP contender. But his political career in the Florida State House from 2000 to 2009 dovetails with a golden age of corruption in Sunshine State politics. The FBI and the IRS descended on Florida in 2010 to investigate how Florida Republican officials and top pols, including Rubio, used their state party credit cards. He was not the worst offender. Others were criminally charged; Rubio was not. But by the time Rubio was running for the US Senate in 2010, the St. Petersburg Times noted the “sheer number of public corruption investigations under way appears unprecedented in Florida.”

During that race, Rubio’s opponents hounded him over these issues. Still, Rubio was elected. But a presidential bid would bring national scrutiny to his record in Florida. Here are some of the scandals that Rubio has survived…so far.
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Improper use of party credit cards: From 2005 until when he left the state Legislature in 2009, Rubio had access to an American Express credit card paid for by the Republican Party of Florida. During his time as speaker, from 2007 to 2009, Rubio often used this card to pay for personal expenses—and some of those expenses ended up paid by the state GOP. In early 2010, when Florida newspapers began to dig into these credit card records, Rubio said he had done nothing wrong and had paid American Express around $16,000 between 2007 and 2008 to cover personal expenses that he had charged, such as $181.56 at the Museum of Natural History in New York City. Rubio also put a $10,000 charge on a party card for a family vacation at a resort in Georgia before ultimately gathering money from family members and paying American Express directly, according to The New Republic.

In 2010, reporters at the Miami Herald and the St. Petersburg Times (which has since become the Tampa Bay Times) identified thousands in personal expenses for Rubio that the Republican Party was never reimbursed for, including $68.33 for “beverages” and a “meal” from a liquor store near his West Miami home, $765 from Apple’s online store for “computer supplies,” and $1,024 in payments to a Tallahassee property manager for personal business. Since Rubio has not released his credit card records from 2005 to 2007, it’s unknown how he used the card during those years.

In 2012, when he was on the list of possible running mates for Mitt Romney, Rubio sat down for an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier and tried to dispense with the credit card issue. Every month, Rubio explained, he would get a statement from American Express and directly pay off any personal expenses. Rubio insisted that “the Republican Party of Florida never paid my personal expenses” and that the issue was “totally resolved years ago.”

But after the interview, Beth Reinhard, one of the reporters who exposed the Rubio credit card story noted, “[Q]uestions remain about the more than $100,000 in charges from Nov. 2006 to Nov. 2008.” And she presented what she called the “obvious” question: “Why would such a savvy politician continually use a state party credit card for non-party business, requiring him to reimburse the credit card company after the bill had been paid?”

Double-billing flights: In February 2010, as he ran for the US Senate, Rubio admitted to double-billing Florida taxpayers and the Republican Party of Florida for eight flights during his time as House speaker. Rubio said the billing was a mistake and repaid $3,000 to the state GOP.

How could this have happened? Rubio blamed the snafu on his travel agency, which charged his state GOP card instead of his personal card. Then, Rubio explained, his staffers sought reimbursement from the state for those same flights.

In this case as in all others, whenever Rubio or his staff fended off questions about his finances during these times, they would chalk the issue up to “clerical errors,” according to a 2012 biography of Rubio by Washington Post reporter Manuel Roig-Franzia. This became a “stock narrative” from Rubio’s supporters, Roig-Franzia wrote, “Rubio was simply sloppy, but not corrupt.”

Political committees: During his stint in the state House, Rubio started two political committees that together took in about $600,000 over a period of less than three years and often made questionable payments. One of these was $14,000 for “couriers” that included three relatives of Rubio who were doing political work around the state.

Rubio established one of these committees, Floridians for Conservative Leadership, in December 2002, to “support state and local candidates.” But an investigation by the Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times revealed that in 2010, the committee spent “nearly $150,000 on administrative and operating costs and $2,000 in candidate contributions.” Credit card expenses as high as $50,000 had little information about how the money was spent. The newspapers noted that this was in “contrast with the more detailed disclosures of other legislators’ political committees.” Other politicians’ committees generally gave more to candidates and had lower administrative costs.

“The bookkeeping in (that) committee was not always perfect,’’ Rubio’s campaign manager told told the Herald and the Times in 2010 after they discovered as part of their investigation that $34,000 in expenses, including a $7,000 reimbursement to Rubio himself, had not been disclosed, as required by state law.

The “Taj Mahal” courthouse: Among Tallahassee’s many scandals during the Rubio years was an elaborate new courthouse for the 1st District Court of Appeal located in the state’s capital. At a time when the Republicans running the state were preaching fiscal austerity, the Legislature appropriated a whopping $48 million for the new facility, which included plans for each judge to get a 60-inch flat-screen TV, mahogany-paneled chambers, and granite countertops for a private bathroom and kitchen, according to the St. Petersburg Times. Funding for the new courthouse snuck through the Legislature as an amendment to a transportation bill on the last day of the legislative session in 2007.

During his 2010 Senate bid, Rubio denied any part in funding the lavish project, saying it was “not something I worked on as speaker.” Yet, the St. Petersburg Times uncovered an email distributed among the judges on the 1st Circuit listing the “heroes” who helped fund the project. Rubio was among those who were “especially helpful” in appropriating money for the project. “The outrage may be that it was a legal waste of public money, and that powerful legislators like Marco Rubio quietly conspired to make it happen,” charged a St. Petersburg Times editorial, arguing that the odds the funding for the courthouse passed the Legislature without Rubio’s blessing were “slim to none.”

His friendship with David Rivera: For over two decades, Rubio has been close friends with David Rivera, state representative who became a member of the US Congress. They both served in the Florida state Legislature in the early 2000s, and Rubio and Rivera jointly bought a house in Tallahassee and lived there together when the Legislature was in session. The two were known as a team there, and when Rubio campaigned to become speaker of the state House—a job that takes years to secure—Rivera acted as his top strategist. Their shared house and five months of missed mortgage payments came to haunt Rubio during his Senate run in 2010 when their bank tried to foreclose on the property. Rubio and Rivera made the missing payments and kept the house.

For the past several years, Rivera has been under investigation from state and federal officials for an exhaustive list of alleged misuses of political money. For example, investigators suspected that Rivera had accepted more than $500,000 in payments from the owner of a Miami dog track for Rivera’s help on a local initiative to allow slot machines at gambling sites. State investigators, though, let Rivera off the hook in 2012 after an 18-month investigation, citing the statute of limitations and Florida’s lax campaign finance laws.

But Rivera remains under federal investigation for an elaborate campaign finance scheme and cover-up that reads like an over-the-top Hollywood script. Running for reelection to Congress in 2012, Rivera was likely to face Democratic challenger Joe Garcia, whom he had beat two years before. Federal prosecutors are investigating whether Rivera propped up a Democratic candidate running against Garcia in the primary. Rivera allegedly used his on-again-off-again girlfriend, Ana Alliegro, as a go-between to funnel more than $80,000 in cash to the other Democratic candidate, Justin Lamar Sternad. Garcia beat Sternad in the primary, and then defeated Rivera in the general election in 2012. When the feds began to look into the campaign finance scheme, Rivera helped Alliegro to escape to Nicaragua to avoid federal investigators.

Alliegro was arrested in Nicaragua nearly a year ago at the US government’s request and sent back to the United States, where she ultimately plead guilty. She has testified in depth about the entire scheme to a federal grand jury. Sternad also plead guilty for his part in the scheme in 2013. Rivera has yet to be indicted, according to the Miami Herald. Attorneys familiar with the case told the Herald that the US attorney might be waiting until his case is “iron-clad.” Or perhaps Rivera is giving testimony to implicate others. It’s anyone’s guess.

Rubio has repeatedly defended his friendship with Rivera, refusing to distance himself from his embattled chum. “He’s a friend, and I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt,” Rubio told Fox’s Baier in 2012. If Rubio runs for president, he may get plenty of opportunities to continue this defense.


134 posted on 11/13/2015 1:08:51 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
You can keep pushing a trash hit piece. The left does.

Have a lovely day.

135 posted on 11/13/2015 1:17:57 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

while personally think trump should now redirect his energy (i.e.: is, global military posturing, invaders bent on european civil culture destruction, trade threats, rampant hypocritical anti-white racism on college campuses and hollywood under the guise of diversity...) having made his point - but maybe, just maybe, the non-script following trump really is offended by the notion of some voters even entertaining the idea of a man who ever contemplated using knives, hammers, etc. on family members or friends as being an equally viable potus candidate? as nice as carson now seemingly is, that is all still a wee bit alien to trump’s world... ;)


136 posted on 11/13/2015 1:55:43 PM PST by vikingrinn
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To: jimbo807

I wasn’t for Trump up to now, but I like his recent performance. His poll numbers will hold up even if some cold-feet supporters drop off.


137 posted on 11/13/2015 2:03:56 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Fantasywriter

You are welcome. I’m old so I am hoping you and those like you “hold the line”.


138 posted on 11/13/2015 2:04:45 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: UNGN

Can you BS your way into having people invest millions of dollars into your business ventures if you never prove yourself?

Nice try, but it was an absurdly stupid argument.


139 posted on 11/13/2015 2:29:27 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: RedStateRocker

“Carson may have been a brilliant surgeon, and say things that conservatives desperately want and need to hear, ...”

Ahem, excuse me for butting in, but I don’t want to hear about his amnesty plan.

The fact that 50% of those polled want a pro-amnesty GOP candidate makes me think the country is toast.


140 posted on 11/13/2015 2:32:46 PM PST by CottonBall
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