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Cruz's Immigration Plan: Timely Remedy for Amnesty and Syrian Refugee Crisis
Townhall.com ^ | November 19, 2015 | Carl Jackson

Posted on 11/19/2015 2:24:32 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: C. Edmund Wright
...but Cruz was consistent on immigration back when Trump called Mitt Romney “too harsh”.......

*****APPLAUSE*******

21 posted on 11/19/2015 3:02:13 PM PST by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: kabar

Nice. But none of that does not say “amnesty”.

It fails my test that they the illegals must go back to their country of origin.

Its not so hard to do, fine scum sucking cheap labor employers for hiring them, No benefits like here in Vegas where over 100,000 illegal kids get free education at some S12,000 per pupil per year, and the citizens are against it.

No jobs, Americans can clean rooms and bus tables in Casinos and Hotels. And all those Mexicans building new houses those are American jobs, wood working, electrical, plumbing and dry wall. Illegals are taking away jobs 95 million Americans who are long term unemployed need.


22 posted on 11/19/2015 3:02:20 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: xzins
Section 3: A,B,C, and D will all reduce legal immigration. The most important is 3D.

3D. End birthright citizenship.

How does that affect legal immigration? Birthright citizenship applies to the children of illegal aliens who acquire citizenship at birth. They are not immigrants. And they are not counted in our annual immigration numbers.

3A. Suspend the issuance of all H-1B visas for 180 days to complete a comprehensive investigation and audit of pervasive allegations of abuse of the program.

We take in 65,000 annually on an H-1B visa, which is a temporary work visa for three years and renewable for three years more. They are not included in the 1.1 MILLION LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS we take in every year. They are issued green cards and a path to citizenship.

3B. Halt any increases in immigration so long as American unemployment remains unacceptably high. Until American workers are near full employment it makes no sense to saturate the low skilled labor market and drive down wages.

Halting any increases is not decreasing the numbers who come in annually, i.e., 1.1 million LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS EVERY YEAR.

3C. Enforce the public-charge doctrine. I love this! If you come to this country it is incumbent upon you and no one else to take care of yourself! Let's restore the "American Dream" not the "Great society."

This will not decrease legal permanent immigration. Yes, we can kick people out if they don't meet the public charge requirements, which are time limited. However, there are plenty of immigrants waiting overseas to take their places. This will not reduce the 1.1 MILLION LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS who enter every year.

Compare this to Trump's plan:

Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women’s plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.

The moderate historical average of legal permanent immigration into the US during the period 1925 to 1965 was 195,000 a year.

23 posted on 11/19/2015 3:02:41 PM PST by kabar
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To: nopardons

Yes, he did. I was a Cruz supporter when he jumped in the race in April and remained so until Trump threw his hat into the ring. He came out on day one with building a wall. Not once did Cruz mention it until recently. Opportunist!!


24 posted on 11/19/2015 3:03:20 PM PST by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: HarleyLady27

Of course he did. He plans to “steal” Trump’s supporters once they are educated. Not this one! I’m not even sure I want him as VP any more. I can’t stand back stabbers and opportunists.


25 posted on 11/19/2015 3:04:37 PM PST by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: kabar

D. Because they get to bring their families eventually to the US legally, and legal leads to citizenship.

Suspending and reviewing H1Bs will find those who have misused the program and they will then lose their access to the program. That will mean fewer foreigners in the US, and that will mean fewer legal immigrants.

Connecting immigration numbers to employment numbers will lessen immigration numbers except in times of ‘full employment’.

Ending welfare money to foreigners automatically will discourage many from coming here.


26 posted on 11/19/2015 3:08:46 PM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Cruz Tries to Claim the Middle Ground on Immigration

Immigration-reform legislation from the Senate’s so-called Gang of Eight passed that chamber in June and includes a 13-year path to citizenship. Mr. Cruz pushed unsuccessfully for amendments that would have, among other things, eliminated the citizenship component.

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation.

Cruz In 2013 On Providing Legal Status To Illegal Immigrants

27 posted on 11/19/2015 3:10:13 PM PST by kabar
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To: Kaslin

“Cruz’s plan doesn’t explicitly address the deportation of the estimated 11 million illegal foreigners residing within our nation’s borders currently. “

That’s because Cruz has no plans to deport anybody. He is planning to let them all stay and legalize them but no citizenship. We all know it will lead to citizenship and it does not address the millions of job the illegals take from US citizens or the enormous financial burden they cause.

Its amnesty Ted.

That’s one reason Ted cannot poll even past Rubio in most polls. And its one of the reasons Trump is going to win.


28 posted on 11/19/2015 3:11:30 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: nopardons

Not really ... a fitting response to the Trump people.


29 posted on 11/19/2015 3:14:06 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Kaslin

As usual, conservative solutions from Ted Cruz.


30 posted on 11/19/2015 3:14:17 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: Catsrus
He plans to "steal" Trump's supporters once they are educated.

That could take a while.

31 posted on 11/19/2015 3:18:32 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: xzins
D. Because they get to bring their families eventually to the US legally, and legal leads to citizenship.

They can't sponsor their extended family until age 21 and a spouse at age 18. But this does not change the annual intake of 1.1 MILLION LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS A YEAR. The ones sponsored by the anchor babies would be included in the cap with exception of spouses where there is no cap.

Suspending and reviewing H1Bs will find those who have misused the program and they will then lose their access to the program. That will mean fewer foreigners in the US, and that will mean fewer legal immigrants.

It will not change the annual cap of 65,000. Those here on H-1B visas are not legal permanent immigrants. The H-1B is a temporary work visa. It will not impact the annual intake of 1.1 MILLION LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS A YEAR.

Connecting immigration numbers to employment numbers will lessen immigration numbers except in times of ‘full employment’.

Trump's plan does that, but Cruz only addresses H-1B visas and not a reduction of the 1.1 MILLION LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS A YEAR.

Ending welfare money to foreigners automatically will discourage many from coming here.

There are plenty willing to take their place and it does not impact the cap of 1.1 MILLION LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS A YEAR. Currently, we have 4 million intending immigrants waiting their turn overseas to enter the US. They have completed all of the paperwork, background checks, etc.

32 posted on 11/19/2015 3:20:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"Cruz's plan doesn't explicitly address the deportation of the estimated 11 million illegal foreigners residing within our nation's borders currently. "

Nor does Trump's plan.

33 posted on 11/19/2015 3:20:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Colonel_Flagg

naturally


34 posted on 11/19/2015 3:20:59 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: All
It is just stupid for us to argue over who's FIRST with their plans. What does it matter?

But what does matter is our love for both of these men, and will be very HAPPY if either one is President, and either of them will get the job done.

Consider how Fortunate we are to have two such qualified men running for President at the same time. When did we ever have that?

Trump/Cruz......Cruz/Trump. That will make me extremely happy.

35 posted on 11/19/2015 3:25:25 PM PST by annieokie
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To: kabar

From 1929 til about 1965 we didn’t have any real immigration in this country and guess what? We did just fine.

What needs to happen is immigration needs to be totally stopped for at least 24 months until we get a handle on who is here on overstayed visas, round them up and deport them. Get the southern border under control, deport as many Mexicans and Central American illegals as we can find and create some kind of order.

Then maybe we look at letting about no more than 50,000 to 100,000 people a year into the country legally and they would have to pass strict criteria regarding speaking English and having an education or job skills that are desired or needed in our work force.

We absolutely have to stop letting 1plus million people a year into the country. We have a population of 330 million now.


36 posted on 11/19/2015 3:25:26 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: FreeReign

Don’t be ridiculous. A major part of Trump’s plan is the rounding up and deporting of illegals who are here. How many ways can he say it? But of course you already know that.


37 posted on 11/19/2015 3:26:43 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Ted has 2 major problems.

One is that he is trying to run out of the Senate. Using the Senate is a mistake in this year. Every time something happens he runs down and writes a bill that will either never make it to the floor or will be vetoed by Obama. Useless waste of time.

The other is that he has shown no ability to take out any competitors. Trump has cleared and damaged the field never touching Cruz. Cruz should unload on Rubio because Rubio is beginning to unload on him.


38 posted on 11/19/2015 3:27:18 PM PST by dforest
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To: kabar

You seem to be arguing that Trump’s plan is better, and I am arguing that Cruz’s plan does reduced legal immigration.

Those are not mutually exclusive.


39 posted on 11/19/2015 3:27:39 PM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FreeReign; All

None of you, or most seems to be worried about muslims trying to come in with stolen passports. Why is that?


40 posted on 11/19/2015 3:27:40 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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