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1 posted on 11/22/2015 6:22:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

We now have extremely few Public Servants, but many rulers.


2 posted on 11/22/2015 6:25:56 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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Has it perished?

We’ll know sometime in the next year.


3 posted on 11/22/2015 6:34:10 AM PST by hoagy62 (Timid Men prefer the 'Calm of Despotism' to the 'Tempestuous Sea of Liberty'. ~ T. Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Folks are slowly starting to take America back.


5 posted on 11/22/2015 6:35:34 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: EternalVigilance

We are being ruled by federal judges.


8 posted on 11/22/2015 6:38:46 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: EternalVigilance

That one has been long gone.


11 posted on 11/22/2015 6:46:33 AM PST by sport
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To: EternalVigilance

We lost the Republic on Usurpation Day, Jan. 20, 2009

Both parties conspired to allow an ineligible man to be sworn into office.

They both wanted to run ineligible candidates.
The natural born citizen clause was put there by the founders for our protection.
We failed to uphold that part of the Constitution, so we have lost it all.


14 posted on 11/22/2015 6:49:28 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: EternalVigilance
and that government OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, shall not perish from the earth

Those words represent the height of hypocrisy coming from disHonest Abe.

18 posted on 11/22/2015 6:56:59 AM PST by cowboyway ("The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."---Tacitus)
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To: EternalVigilance

Article II Section 2 The supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Congress needs to make exceptions. Ones I favor:
Clarification of 9th and 10th Amendment.
States shall issue birth and death certificates at their discretion. The Federal government, including all branches, has no jurisdiction in the matters of birth and death, except in the Armed Forces overseas, and in overseas embassies.


21 posted on 11/22/2015 7:01:19 AM PST by spintreebob
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I would say at this point, yes. Our federal system is in ruins- Supreme Court decisions can make a mockery out of the legislative process at the state level, as revealed by the Obergefell decision, which rendered the exercise of the franchise useless. The legislative branch at the Federal level has signally failed to hold accountable a lawless chief executive who selectively enforces laws and whose foreign policy serves the interests of foreign powers who are in fact our enemies. Our political system is largely based on passing power between two political parties that mostly exist to channel money out of the public treasury into the pockets of their supporters, or else to create policies that give their business interests greater profits without regard to the interests of the public as a whole.


22 posted on 11/22/2015 7:07:18 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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“On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
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When the supremes deviate from the above-mentioned instruction, their decrees should rightly be ignored.


24 posted on 11/22/2015 7:11:39 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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Two thoughts immediately come to mind after reading through this:

1. There's a presumptuous arrogance surrounding the idea that a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" is not only practical, but ideal. Maybe that's true, but I'm not sure the historical evidence will reflect that as time goes on.

2. Related to that point, it's important to note that this country was not founded as a democracy. Nor was it founded as a place where "the people" (as we understand this today) had any role whatsoever in their own governance. Very few people in the U.S. even had the right to vote in the early days of this country. I decided to do a quick review of a random presidential election in the first few decades of this nation's history, and the numbers tell the story very clearly. There were about six million people living in the U.S. in 1804, but fewer than 150,000 votes were cast in the election that year when Thomas Jefferson was elected as our third president.

The second point I've made here suggests that this country was always intended by the Founders to be much closer to an oligarchy than to a democracy anyway.

28 posted on 11/22/2015 7:15:05 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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They were smart fellows who wrote the Constitution. They knew thieves and liars would eventually take control . That is why they put in Article V. It is the way the people can undue all the tricks the collectivists have labored so long and hard to usurp the power from the People.
33 posted on 11/22/2015 7:22:36 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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Has "Government of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, for THE PEOPLE" perished from the earth?

In the DemoKKKrats AmeriKKKa?

Yes.

35 posted on 11/22/2015 7:33:51 AM PST by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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Yup, that’s him. Old Abe was the Alpha Chamber of Commerce cheerleader.

Lincoln’s level of disregard of the constitution was and is breathtaking. The rhetoric he spouted at Gettysburg is no different as that sodomite in the whitehouse.


39 posted on 11/22/2015 7:42:41 AM PST by Original Lurker
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The left will tell you that these were all old white guys speaking for the privileged whites of the time ignoring the blacks and the red men men who together were more numerous than the whites. Hence they only spoke for themselves. We have had the longest running government in modern history and we are now looking for something that is described as better, that has had a proven bad record? Tell me we aren’t that F’d up. Plus, our over whelming generosity is destroying us, time to turn off the faucet before we are all living in cardboard shacks and rummaging in the town dump. Our century is over, time to re awaken.


43 posted on 11/22/2015 8:13:42 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (In the words of Oliver Hardy; "Another fine mess you have gotten us into.")
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Bump


50 posted on 11/22/2015 10:06:09 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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Ping


56 posted on 11/22/2015 1:28:18 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (MARANATHA)
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bfl


57 posted on 11/22/2015 1:31:10 PM PST by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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bkmk


62 posted on 11/23/2015 10:35:57 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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Isn’t it funny how Lincoln brings out the best - and the absolute worst in people? The lost causers can be nettlesome but they are basically toothless. ;’)


82 posted on 11/23/2015 8:06:42 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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