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Limbaugh: Trump Doing A ‘Great Service’
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Posted on 11/22/2015 4:24:15 PM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: JoSixChip
Again, this very story that we're discussing is a prime example of the MSM making the story about Trump when in fact, it was about Cruz. If Fox is part of the GOPe (which I think it is), then it is much more afraid of Cruz than it is of Trump, because ONLY Cruz received warm praise as a trustworthy conservative from Rush Limbaugh, and the ONLY praise Rush had for Trump was that he is politically incorrect. The true story was Rush's liking for Cruz above all others; the MSM spin was to make the headline and the story about Trump first, Carson second (Rush politely dismissed him), and Cruz, the actual star of Rush's praise, to the bottom.

It is self evident.

101 posted on 11/23/2015 12:06:41 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: JoSixChip; Finny; Colonel_Flagg; SmokingJoe; roamer_1; cripplecreek
"You cruzers just don't get it. You have to align yourselves with the GOPe and msm to defend Cruz and attack Trump. Then you have the nerve to say Cruz is anti-establishment."

It's stuff like this that makes me think some of you Trumpsters have allowed your adoration of the man to addle you. I'm sincere.

Saying that Ted Cruz is establishment/GOPe is like saying the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. It's laughable. And to double down, you try to imply that Trump---the self-admitted Democrat who betrays his liberal self on the average of once or twice a week--is more conservative than Cruz.

I can understand trying to argue for your candidate with a halfway reasoned argument. But when you descend into this kind of irrationality and joke posting, you prove that your emotions are in charge when your brain ought to be.

102 posted on 11/23/2015 12:10:05 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Saying that Ted Cruz is establishment/GOPe is like saying the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

And yet Cruz did vote for TPA and the corker bill. Not withstanding the "mcconnell played me", "I voted for it before I voted against it" or the always popular "I voted for the corker bill to delay the iran deal" defenses. Those were establishment/GOPe positions, no? Who was it that wanted those votes to pass, you and your oblivious cruzers or the CoC and the CFG?
103 posted on 11/23/2015 12:19:19 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip
Those were establishment/GOPe positions, no?

Seriously, shall I list the GOPe and leftist positions that Trump has aligned himself with?

104 posted on 11/23/2015 12:36:04 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: dforest
Yeah, He shot Walker right out of the race. LOL

Ummmm..no. He essentially put Walker at the top of the race for 3 months, until Walker self destructed.

Rush really has very little impact on the elections.

Just keep telling yourself that. Sour grapes anyone?

105 posted on 11/23/2015 12:37:46 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Rush never put him there, the media did. LOL


106 posted on 11/23/2015 12:42:13 PM PST by dforest
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To: FreeReign
Seriously, shall I list the GOPe and leftist positions that Trump has aligned himself with?

Please do.
107 posted on 11/23/2015 12:43:47 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip

Here are six important ones...

Universal Health Insurance Coverage,
Expediting illegals back (good ones) for a legalization amnesty,
Assault Weapons Ban.
2009 Obama “Stimulus”.
TARP,
Bank Bailouts.


108 posted on 11/23/2015 12:56:00 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: dforest
If the media could put people at the top of the race, Donald Trump would never have shot to the top of the race. If I remember correctly, the day he announced, Donald Trump was excoriated by the media, had his beauty pageant cancel led and his clothes line at Macy's stopped. The result? He shot up in the polls.
109 posted on 11/23/2015 1:03:16 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

It is a love/hate thing ya know?


110 posted on 11/23/2015 1:04:33 PM PST by dforest
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To: JoSixChip
Seriously? Hey didn't Trump himself say he was a “cheerleader” for Obama at a time? You can't get any more left wing than that.
111 posted on 11/23/2015 1:06:02 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: JoSixChip
And yet Cruz did vote for TPA

No. He did not. Initially he supported TPA but voted against it on June 23.

and the corker bill.

For reasons that have already been well established. It was the only way to get Obama's Iran deal to a vote of any kind.

Is that the best you've got? Because if it is, maybe we can move on to Trump's support for Canadian-style single-payer health care, blaming Republicans for the 2008 financial crisis, campaign donations to Hillary Clinton and 22 other Democrats and the Clinton Foundation, his Democratic voter registration as recently as 2008 ... and oh, yes, this little gem...

"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. ...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans." -- Donald Trump

112 posted on 11/23/2015 1:08:27 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Revenge is a Daesh best served cold.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Seriously? Hey didn't Trump himself say he was a "cheerleader" for Obama at a time? You can't get any more left wing than that.

You may want to review your source on that. Trump was actually criticizing obumber when he said that. So what you are referencing is grossly out of context. Not that I suspect that really matters to you.
113 posted on 11/23/2015 1:10:45 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Oh, please! save me your “mcconnell played me”, “I voted for it before I voted against it” or the always popular “I voted for the corker bill to delay the iran deal” defenses. You just make yourself look foolish repeating such obvious garbage. Cruz voted the way he voted because the people paying his way demanded it.


114 posted on 11/23/2015 1:13:44 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: FreeReign; JoSixChip
Eminent domain is another.

Pro ethanol and "I'm for it" response to wind far subsidies, yet a few more.

115 posted on 11/23/2015 1:22:04 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

Have you read his book? I could spend an hour or more sourcing all the things you say and in most cases debunking them. But I don’t have the time. If you want to send me direct quotes that are in context with the source, I will try to address them as I get time. It may be educational.


116 posted on 11/23/2015 1:26:48 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: JoSixChip
You may want to review your source on that

My source is just fine thank you.

Trump was actually criticizing obumber when he said that.

He wasn't.

So what you are referencing is grossly out of context. Not that I suspect that really matters to you.

No out of context about it.

Here is the direct quote:

Donald Trump recalls with chagrin that he supported Barack Obama for president in 2008, but says he now realizes that those moving hope-and-change speeches were nothing more than rhetoric.

Donald Trump, Obama, Hannity”I was his biggest cheerleader,” the multibillionaire businessman told Sean Hannity on his Fox TV show Tuesday night. “If you go back three years, I'm saying, ‘Do a great job.’ I wanted him to do a great job. I still want him to do a great job.”

www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/414955

As a matter of fact it'd even worse than I said. Words DO have meanings you know.

117 posted on 11/23/2015 1:52:39 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: JoSixChip; SmokingJoe
Why don't you post the "context," then? If you mean this one in the NewsMax story where he says "I was his biggest cheerleader," I'll save you the trouble. The time he was referring to was 2008, when he was still registered as a Democrat.

In fairness to Trump, although he was a Democrat, he officially endorsed that great Republican conservative, John McCain because "I've known him, I like him, I respect him .... He's a smart guy."

He also demonstrated more of his propensity as a great judge of character *rolls eyes* when he said in 2008: "Hillary's a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine. They're fantastic people. I mean, they're -- you know, the thing, they get a bad knock. She's a very nice woman. People think, tough, tough. And I guess she's tough, but she's a very nice woman. And he's a very nice guy. We know all about the smarts and how smart they are, and all, but they are good people."

So why did Trump endorse McCain in 2008 when he was such a great friend of the Clintons (he donated at least $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation) and a registered Democrat?

At the time, it was frequently suggested by those interviewing him that if Obama had chosen Trump's good friend Hillary Clinton, he'd have been endorsing Obama instead of McCain, Trump DECLINED TO DENY IT. Instead, he avoided answering yes or no, but just skirted it.

Trump's supporters are the first to admire Trump for saying what he means and meaning what he says.

That Trump didn't outright deny the idea that he'd have endorsed Obama if Hillary had been is running mate ... ought to tell something to those who are so enamored of his "straight talk."

So Jo6chip, review YOUR source -- at the time, Trump actually was a fan of Obama, he thought Obama had a lot of great ideas, just that Obama was going about them the wrong way. Otherwise, you'd be able to post links where Trump talks as harshly about Obama then as he does now. Maybe an "unfair" GOP has had all those statements scrubbed?

Cruz says don't talk about Obamacare's replacement until you've repealed it first. Cruz's main goal is "health care reform that keeps government out of the way between you and your doctor."

All I hear from Trump is "This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private. But .... I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.... the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything."

"Going to be able to," Mr. Trump, or "Going to be REQUIRED to by Federal law"? On that minor detail, Trump's talent for straight-talk evaporates.

Shining the light of truth, here. The truth is what will keep America free.

118 posted on 11/23/2015 2:11:04 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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To: Finny

Good post. Enough there to raise serious doubts about Trump*s reliability.


119 posted on 11/23/2015 2:14:43 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: JoSixChip
Trump wrote his book, and you believe every word.

Did you believe every word in "Dreams of my Father," too?

120 posted on 11/23/2015 2:24:35 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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