Posted on 11/24/2015 2:41:46 PM PST by markomalley
“Items on the prohibited list include armored tracked vehicles, weaponized aircraft and vehicles, .50-caliber firearms and ammo, bayonets, and camouflage.”
Sheriff Bo Machismo: “But you don’t *understand*, we neeeed that stuff! For like a zombie apocalypse, or a Canadian moose mounted shock troop invasion force!”
Seriously, years ago, one big city Sheriff complained that he needed a water cooled .30 caliber machine gun, “so if a terrorist hijacked a plane we could shoot it down.”
Funny how this coincides with the rise of #blacklivesmatter
130 employees would probably mean less than 50 actual officers; probably 10-15 on duty at any given time. Seriously having trouble seeing any justification for a free APC for a county agency that small.
Like I said on another thread:
“Eff em. I actually agree with Barry on this”.
As I said on another thread, the only reason this bastard would do this, is because he knows they’re going to need them before he leaves office.
I agree the police departments should never have had some of this stuff, but him taking it all away leads me to think there’s something afoot.
We both may find ourselves wrong before this is over.
ISIS probably put an order in and Obama said he’d figure out where to find the goods.
In any case, police departments have no business owning and using AFVs. If the situation is that bad, the governor needs to send in the Guard.
We are half men / hakf amazing.... We’ll be fine....
include armored tracked vehicles, weaponized aircraft and vehicles, .50-caliber firearms and ammo, bayonets, and camouflage.
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They provide a good example for the armored vehicle, but the rest of the stuff, I’d rather they not have.
Raise taxes if you need to, but buy your own toys.
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And half not amazing...
LOL
I’ve always believed that the only way to restore liberty is to restrict the police to exactly the same restrictions that every citizen faces in the jurisdiction they serve. IE: No sexy black weapons if those are banned, waiting periods, trigger locks, locked box transport, no open wearing of firearms if the locale forbids open carry - the list goes on and on.
Call it the anti-animal farm rule: Everyone is equal, no one is more equal than others.
Lurker, regarding local police buying their own toys, you might want to consider the following post from a related thread, particularly the last part.
”President Obama issued Executive Order 13688 in January after the 2014 riots in Ferguson, Mo., . . .”
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
What we cannot expect to hear from Obama guard dog Fx News concerning Obamas executive orders dealing with military vehicles is the following.
The states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for local police departments. And not having such power is significant for the following reason.
Regarding executive orders, ”executive orders” a term not found in the Constitution, please note the following. The Supreme Court clarified in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer that executive orders do not have the force of law unless legislatively supported by Congress - provided that such legislation is reasonably based on Congresss constitutional Article I, Section 8-llimited powers. But as previously mentioned, such powers do not include regulating local police departments.
So regardless that lawless Obama is always being scapegoated, the real problem with Obamas unpopular executive orders is the following imo. We have a corrupt, Constitution-ignoring Congress that wrongly allows lawless presidents and activist justices to unconstitutionally exercise legislative branch powers, powers that Congress does not even have with respect to local police departments..
So please bear in mind that patriots need to support Trump and Cruz with a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress.
Getting back to local police departments, they should arguably refuse to give up their federally funded military vehicles by claiming that they are recovering state / local revenues which were stolen from the states through unconstitutional federal taxes.
”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
You misunderstood me. If the Sheriff wants these toys he can go to the taxpayers of his jurisdiction and explain the need and ask his constituents to paQy for them with a local tax levy.
No Fed money needed.
That’s the Constitutional way to do things.
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There were rural counties with populations under 100,000 getting apc’s and sticking taxpayers with the bill for maintaining them.
Can’t believe I’m saying this but good for Obama.
This one backfired on Bambi.
He intended to use them to keep us “bitter clingers” in line, and threaten Marshal Law.
When he discovered they were being used to keep the BLM crowds in control, he changed his tune.
Perhaps; but even Obastards shock troops have to get OUT of their AFV in order to enforce the rat bastards illegal “EXECUTIVE ORDERS”.
Lurker, the feds have no constitutional authority to tax and spend for military police vehicles for local police departments imo. So the federal funding used to pay for such vehicles was arguably local / state revenues which corrupt Congress stole from the states by means of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes which Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
Again, local police departments could hold on to the military police vehicles imo, such vehicles arguably paid for by unconstitutional federal taxes, the local police departments claiming that they are attempting to recover stolen local / state tax revenues.
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