Posted on 11/25/2015 5:34:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Unlike ours, apparently, because we would have to cut back immediately.
Let's not forget the other travesty going on in Paris at the moment - the one Obama thinks will really show ISIS that we mean business. That's the one in which elected officials from nations across the globe conspire to raise taxes and put crushing new controls on industry using the pretext of global warming - oh, sorry, "climate change - because the public won't support these policies they've wanted to impose all along if not for some scare scenario about a looming global ecological disaster.
Actually the public doesn't support it even with that pretext because they can detect Bolshevik more easily than politicians think, but Obama and his counterparts going ahead with the charade anyway. And as they do, here's an interesting detail to chew on: According to the agreement Obama wants to put in place, the U.S. would have to reduce its carbon emissions immediately, while China can continue to increase its carbon emissions until reaching "peak" in 2030. India's emissions will be allowed to triple between now and 2030.
Keep in mind, this is not a negotiating position of the Chinese and the Indians for which Obama must come up with a counterproposal. This is Obama's own proposal:
Todd Stern, the chief American negotiator heading to Paris, has tried to justify the disconnect. Mr. Stern recently told the Senate that developing countries need to be allowed to keep emitting so that their economies can continue to grow by 8%-9% a year. “If you’re an economy which is growing at eight or nine percent a year because that’s the stage of development you’re in,” he testified, “it’s pretty hard to say you’re supposed to slam on the brakes and go negative overnight.”
There's an astounding admission embedded in that rationalization if you just pay attention. If China's and India's emission have to keep increasing so as not to stall their economic growth, then Stern is admitting that state-mandated cutbacks in carbon emissions are a detriment to economic growth - not that many of us didn't already know that, of course. And Stern's boss is volunteering to sacrifice U.S. economic growth to facilitate faster growth in China and India.
That's a pretty big problem considering that average U.S. quarterly GDP growth since 2011 has been a paltry 1.99 percent. If we know that forced carbon reductions impeded GDP growth - and Stern admits that we do in the statement quoted above - then what exactly is the thinking behind further bogging down our own growth?
If your first instinct is to think that Obama is just a really bad negotiator, understand that global warming has always been a mere excuse to do what liberals want to do anyway. The policy changes this deal would require the United States to implement are harmful to U.S. economic growth, but in no way are they anathema to Obama's own agenda. Quite the contrary. Raising taxes on industry and imposing new environmental regulations are his dream. The climate deal is just a way to get there.
Presumably the Republican Senate would never ratify this treaty, although I'd be careful about investing too much confidence in Mitch McConnell. But even if the Senate does refuse to ratify, that doesn't mean it's the end of the story - not with this president. He could always decide to treat the deal as an agreement between executives, as he did with the Iran deal since he knew he couldn't get ratification if he treated it as a treaty.
The harder part, I suppose, would be the enabling legislation that would put in place the taxes and regulations necessary to fulfill America's obligations under the deal. But even there, President Executive Order will surely look for creative ways around Congress so as not to disappoint his foreign counterparts, because Obama would never welch on a deal unless it's a defense pact with Poland and the Czech Republic, since that would have upset Vladimir Putin.
Just about every action this guy takes is counter to the interests of the United States, just as they are consistently in line with his left-wing ideology. You get to the point where you can't explain one horrible deal after another by saying he's just really bad at this - and you have to consider the possibility that he knows exactly what he's doing.
The issue is never the issue.
The issue is always the revolution.
America must be removed from power.
Other nations must rise up and replace Western Civilization.
...and don’t forget that China’s CO2 output is already DOUBLE that of the US. India is around our level too. If just China and India get free passes, it’s like nothing ever happened there regarding CO2 levels (except us agreeing to shut down our economy).
Anyone who thinks Obama has the benefit and future of our country (not his) at heart is an abject idiot. Simply put, you cannot believe anything he or his underlings say, or this entire government now for that matter.
He’s always known exactly what he was doing. He has only two constituencies - elected Democrat party officials and the media - and no popular support for anything he wants to do. A jerk like this exposes some deficiencies in our system that never arose before because we never had an anti-American Communist as President before.
and America’s economy needs to collapse
So long as it screws America because that’s what matters most, right Barry?
We’re taking millions of immigrants but our economy doesn’t need cheap energy to grow
Because obama
“Presumably the Republican Senate would never ratify this treaty, “
Yeah, just like they knocked down the Iran Nuclear Deal.
Oh wait....................
Hogwash.
China’s economy (as measured by exports anyway) is now larger than OUR OWN.
World’s leading.
“Todd Stern, the chief American negotiator heading to Paris, has tried to justify the disconnect. Mr. Stern recently told the Senate that developing countries need to be allowed to keep emitting so that their economies can continue to grow by 8%-9% a year. “If you’re an economy which is growing at eight or nine percent a year because that’s the stage of development you’re in,†he testified, “it’s pretty hard to say you’re supposed to slam on the brakes and go negative overnight.â€
Who is John Galt?
Evaporation and rainfall are increasing; glaciers are retreating; sea ice is shrinking; sea level is rising; permafrost is melting; wildfires are increasing; storm and flood damage is soaring. The canary in the coal mine is singing for all she's worth.
-- Todd Stern - on reading the signs of climate change (Center for American Progress, May 28, 2004)
Every white leader in the universe is boinking Dorkmama the Muslim.
He couldn’t successully negotiate with a slime mild.
White privilege strikes again.
From the campaign trail, 2008...
Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs
February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com
A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.
The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:
Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.
First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]
Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future combat systems.
And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.
Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert, and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.
You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.
Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090412030633/http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp
"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
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Also from 2008...
2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power
By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008
GOLDEN, Colorado - A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.
Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.
Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 - the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon - is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers - a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."
To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2005/09/war-games-russia-china-grow-alliance
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170287,00.html
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Sept 11, 2014
China and Russia to build major seaport: report
China and Russia will build one of the largest ports in north-east Asia on Russia's Sea of Japan coast, reports say, in a further sign of the powerhouses' growing alliance.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-11/china-and-russia-to-build-major-seaport-report/5738036
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Obama: "We Welcome China's Rise"
CBS News ^ | January 19, 2011 | Stephanie Condon
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