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Obama's climate negotiator: China's CO2 output can keep rising because their economy needs to grow
CainTV.com ^ | 11/25/2015 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 11/25/2015 5:34:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Unlike ours, apparently, because we would have to cut back immediately.

Let's not forget the other travesty going on in Paris at the moment - the one Obama thinks will really show ISIS that we mean business. That's the one in which elected officials from nations across the globe conspire to raise taxes and put crushing new controls on industry using the pretext of global warming - oh, sorry, "climate change - because the public won't support these policies they've wanted to impose all along if not for some scare scenario about a looming global ecological disaster.

Actually the public doesn't support it even with that pretext because they can detect Bolshevik more easily than politicians think, but Obama and his counterparts going ahead with the charade anyway. And as they do, here's an interesting detail to chew on: According to the agreement Obama wants to put in place, the U.S. would have to reduce its carbon emissions immediately, while China can continue to increase its carbon emissions until reaching "peak" in 2030. India's emissions will be allowed to triple between now and 2030.

Keep in mind, this is not a negotiating position of the Chinese and the Indians for which Obama must come up with a counterproposal. This is Obama's own proposal:

Todd Stern, the chief American negotiator heading to Paris, has tried to justify the disconnect. Mr. Stern recently told the Senate that developing countries need to be allowed to keep emitting so that their economies can continue to grow by 8%-9% a year. “If you’re an economy which is growing at eight or nine percent a year because that’s the stage of development you’re in,” he testified, “it’s pretty hard to say you’re supposed to slam on the brakes and go negative overnight.”

There's an astounding admission embedded in that rationalization if you just pay attention. If China's and India's emission have to keep increasing so as not to stall their economic growth, then Stern is admitting that state-mandated cutbacks in carbon emissions are a detriment to economic growth - not that many of us didn't already know that, of course. And Stern's boss is volunteering to sacrifice U.S. economic growth to facilitate faster growth in China and India.

That's a pretty big problem considering that average U.S. quarterly GDP growth since 2011 has been a paltry 1.99 percent. If we know that forced carbon reductions impeded GDP growth - and Stern admits that we do in the statement quoted above - then what exactly is the thinking behind further bogging down our own growth?

If your first instinct is to think that Obama is just a really bad negotiator, understand that global warming has always been a mere excuse to do what liberals want to do anyway. The policy changes this deal would require the United States to implement are harmful to U.S. economic growth, but in no way are they anathema to Obama's own agenda. Quite the contrary. Raising taxes on industry and imposing new environmental regulations are his dream. The climate deal is just a way to get there.

Presumably the Republican Senate would never ratify this treaty, although I'd be careful about investing too much confidence in Mitch McConnell. But even if the Senate does refuse to ratify, that doesn't mean it's the end of the story - not with this president. He could always decide to treat the deal as an agreement between executives, as he did with the Iran deal since he knew he couldn't get ratification if he treated it as a treaty.

The harder part, I suppose, would be the enabling legislation that would put in place the taxes and regulations necessary to fulfill America's obligations under the deal. But even there, President Executive Order will surely look for creative ways around Congress so as not to disappoint his foreign counterparts, because Obama would never welch on a deal unless it's a defense pact with Poland and the Czech Republic, since that would have upset Vladimir Putin.

Just about every action this guy takes is counter to the interests of the United States, just as they are consistently in line with his left-wing ideology. You get to the point where you can't explain one horrible deal after another by saying he's just really bad at this - and you have to consider the possibility that he knows exactly what he's doing.


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KEYWORDS: carbondioxide; china; co2; energy; epa; globalwarminghoax; kyotoaccords; methane; opec; petroleum; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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To: ETL

Where did these criminal lefties dig up this great “negotiator”? I bet my elderly senile dog could do better negotiation.


21 posted on 11/25/2015 6:40:51 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen
Where did these criminal lefties dig up this great 'negotiator'?

His 2008/2012 campaigns were probably funded in part by the Russians. We saw how the ChiComs wanted Bill Clinton in charge.

22 posted on 11/25/2015 6:44:44 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Obama is the best gift Russia and China could have ever received.


23 posted on 11/25/2015 6:45:53 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If global warming was real no sane person would have this position.


24 posted on 11/25/2015 7:12:15 AM PST by Vision (Obama is not a well man.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

China plans on building 1,000 coal-fired power plants in the next ten years, in which time their economy will dwarf our own, their military will encompass the globe, and communism will be the prevailing ideology in the New World Order.

Oh, and India plans an addition 800 coal-fired power plants in the same time frame.

Obama.


25 posted on 11/25/2015 7:14:42 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well then, the best the developed world can cut is only a fraction of China’s output, so why bother?


26 posted on 11/25/2015 7:18:48 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
because their economy needs to grow

And ours needs to evaporate; because we have to "de-develop America" (Science Czar John Holdren).

If someone tells you he is a good guy; check him out to make sure it's true.

But if someone tells you he is evil and he is out to get you; believe him.

Zero and his cronies are out to get us. They want us poor. They want us enslaved. They want us dead.

The evidence is irrefutable.

27 posted on 11/25/2015 7:43:58 AM PST by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"If you're an economy which is growing at eight or nine percent a year... it's pretty hard to say you're supposed to slam on the brakes and go negative overnight."

Wait a second. I thought this was a world-wide EMERGENCY!!... so we must change the entire way we are living and spend trillions of dollars to fix it, including huge taxes and subsidies for the developing world? How come for all these developing countries and huge offenders it is simply business as usual!!??

Did I miss something in the last ditch EMERGENCY PROCEDURES we need to implement for saving Planet Earth?

28 posted on 11/25/2015 9:13:37 AM PST by Gritty (The Barbarians Are Inside, And There Are No Gates. So screw the candlelight vigil. - Mark Steyn)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A clear and tacit admission that one of the reasons for pushing the global warming fraud is to harm the US economy.
This statement rises to Certified-57-States-Stupid weapons grade stupidity.
Someone will need to explain this to Odumbo.
29 posted on 11/26/2015 6:33:59 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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