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“I gave the order myself” − Turkish PM on downing Russian plane
thinkpol.ca ^ | November 25, 2015 | thinkpol

Posted on 11/25/2015 3:08:33 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper

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To: McGruff

Turkey’s own evidence prove them to be lairs. So Russia only violated Turkey space for 17secs. That’s not nearly enough time to give out the warning and besides Russia was on their way out even as they cross into Turkey air space


81 posted on 11/26/2015 3:46:02 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: patro

I think its more likely the pilot took the shortest route and didn’t think Turkey would be such a prick that they kill over few seconds air violation


82 posted on 11/26/2015 3:51:23 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: bgill

Preplanned, it had to have been an ambush. Turkey is in deep trouble.


83 posted on 11/26/2015 4:11:08 AM PST by kalee
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To: elcid1970

The surviving pilot says no warning was given.


84 posted on 11/26/2015 4:13:13 AM PST by kalee
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To: Berlin_Freeper

refreshing to see a national leader with some guts, anyway. Imagine what Hillary and Obama would come up with.


85 posted on 11/26/2015 4:14:58 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Krosan

Putin is simply feeling around for the edges of the envelope. He is not going to confine himself to the Middle East, if and when things get going.


86 posted on 11/26/2015 4:17:19 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: kalee

“A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack” - Turkey’s Erdogan in 2012

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151125/1030698044/erdogan-airspace-violation-contradiction.html#ixzz3sXKS3OZN

But that was years ago.


87 posted on 11/26/2015 4:54:44 AM PST by McGruff (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it)
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To: kalee

I’m no techie, but there nowadays must be some way of recording tactical radio transmissions so that they get instantly uploaded from the aircraft to the internet.

A flight recorder in the cloud, so to speak.


88 posted on 11/26/2015 5:23:38 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: anton

Viktor Yushchenko.


89 posted on 11/26/2015 7:21:57 AM PST by donozark (Herbicides improve visibility.)
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To: AndyJackson

LOL..that article is one among many more I could post.

One thing we know as fact. They did violate Turkish airspace and they shot down the Russian SU-24.


90 posted on 11/26/2015 7:34:06 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: 4rcane

The Russians have been consistently violating Turkish airspace and gave consistent warnings.

Russia ignored this and they got bitch slapped.

They can do nothing to Turkey as they were in the wrong and they know it.


91 posted on 11/26/2015 7:36:55 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: kalee

Yep, preplanned and intentional.


92 posted on 11/26/2015 9:02:44 AM PST by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: kalee

Just another Russian lie to muddy the waters. The warning was given on open guard channel and civilian airplanes in the area heard it and have confirmed.


93 posted on 11/26/2015 9:43:10 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Russian and lie — same thing.


94 posted on 11/26/2015 12:44:35 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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