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Report: Overworked Navy at a tipping point
Stars & Stripes ^ | 11/28/15 | Hugh Lessig

Posted on 11/28/2015 12:36:40 PM PST by markomalley

Edited on 11/28/2015 12:42:31 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Jim Noble

Because...America.


41 posted on 11/28/2015 3:53:22 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mariner

Build the Montana class!


42 posted on 11/28/2015 4:04:55 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: trisham
Because...America

Exactly.

The Strait of Hormuz was MADE for fast BBs.

43 posted on 11/28/2015 4:05:58 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: Jim Noble

I had to look that up. :)

Battleships 

B Battleship (prior to 1920)
BB Battleship (after 1920)
BBC Battleship, Command Ship
BBG Battleship, Missile
BBH Battleship, Helicopter
M Monitor (prior to 1920)
BM Monitor (after 1920)
Notes:
The early pre-dreadnoughts Maine and Texas were commissioned as “Second Class Battleships” but apparently did not receive hull series numbers. Maine was originally designated as Armored Cruiser #1 (ACR-1) but was reclassified during construction.
Many pre-dreadnoughts were colloquially known as “Coastal Defense Ships” as they were not designed nor intended to fight far from home. Some of these were officially renamed as “Coast Battleship #X” (with “X” being their hull number) in March - April 1919 in order to free up their names for new construction. Surviving pre-dreadnoughts were reclassified as “Battleships” and given the BB designation in the 17 July 1920 assignment, although many of these were then rapidly scrapped under the terms of the Washington Naval Limitation Treaty.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_ships_list.htm


44 posted on 11/28/2015 4:14:43 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Noble
Build the Montana class! Just because.

Because why? Because we have billions to waste on ships that would be obsolete the moment they hit the water?

45 posted on 11/28/2015 4:20:51 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Because they are big and scary, and no more obsolete than CVNs.


46 posted on 11/28/2015 4:43:58 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: jmacusa

We’ll bring Vinnie wid’ us and see if we’s kin persuade him....


47 posted on 11/28/2015 5:34:40 PM PST by Regulator
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To: markomalley; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


48 posted on 11/28/2015 5:39:37 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Regulator

We make him da offer he can’t refuse... baddabing!


49 posted on 11/28/2015 5:49:10 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: markomalley

Sad to see a waning Navy. But then, what did we expect from Bath house Barak, the clown prince, capt. selfie stick? Maybe president mommy jeans will send them the Naptown funk video to buck em up? Oh, almost forgot....climate change! Yeah...thats the ticket.


50 posted on 11/28/2015 6:24:22 PM PST by E38 (Very soon, I'm moving to the South Pacific. NO REALLY! C YA)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bless the trucker’s heart - he uses “colorful” language to express his disgust. He’s terrific. Those “refugees” are a disaster waiting to happen.


51 posted on 11/28/2015 6:56:22 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: rlmorel

Remind me to post my niece’s boyfriend’s thoughts on women in front line combat. He ended a Marine enlistment last Spring. He was a 240 gunner in some ****hole in Afghanistan, among other billets.


52 posted on 11/28/2015 8:48:45 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mariner

Why moth ball ships if they can’t be upgraded?


53 posted on 11/29/2015 6:14:29 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: markomalley
...demand for naval forces exceeds the supply they can sustainably deliver...

Says who? Maybe we don't have enough ships to be a "Global Force for Good", but we have plenty to defend the USA...if any of our politicians are still interested in doing that job rather than paying off the defense contractors who own and operate them.

54 posted on 11/29/2015 6:33:58 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: FreedomPoster

I would appreciate hearing that, Freepmail is okay.

It is a hot-button issue for me, and it has nothing to do with the bravery, dedication, or intelligence of women, but everything to do with their average physical capabilities relative to those of the average man and the logistical and psychological (unit cohesion) effects they have on all male units resulting in a degradation of capability.


55 posted on 11/29/2015 6:40:06 AM PST by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: batterycommander

LOL! You sound like someone who had that drilled into them!


56 posted on 11/29/2015 6:41:04 AM PST by rlmorel ("National success by the Democratic Party equals irretrievable ruin." Ulysses S. Grant)
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To: Jim Robinson

Shudder...God help us


57 posted on 11/29/2015 6:54:56 AM PST by MEG33 (God Bless America And Our Troops)
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To: markomalley

Look around. Listen.

The US government is financially no more sound than the USSR in 1988.

Things are so brittle that it will not take much to break.


58 posted on 11/29/2015 6:57:02 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: volunbeer

You are assuming the GOP was not complicit. I think that is where your mistake is.


59 posted on 11/29/2015 6:58:39 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: Mariner

My thought is that we have enough carriers. The Arleigh Burkes are not big enough. I believe we need to go up in tonnage to cruiser size,18,000 tons or so, nuclear fast and capable of either joint or independent tasks and with both missiles as well as traditional weapons. As a way to save money, get rid of the littoral ships. They are as useless as monitors came to be.


60 posted on 11/29/2015 6:59:07 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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