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To: Texicanus
What legal options are you afraid Ted will take besides deportation.

That's a strange, backhanded way to frame a question.

As should be clear from my posts on the thread, my fear is that a President Cruz would maintain the status quo, vis a vis, illegals, by NOT deporting those in the country. His public statements on the matter have made that clear to me.

In my observation, Ted is just as wishy-washy and mealy-mouthed about the nuts and bolts of illegal immigration as the rest of the Cheap Labor Express. He's just a whole lot better at making it sound like he's for enforcement, while never actually saying that at all.

Trump, on the other hand, says what most Americans need and want to hear from a candidate, which is, "The illegals have to go."

Now is not the time for equivocation, nuance, double-speak, evasions, or slippery lawyer talk. We need and want these politicians to stand up and speak plainly about what they intend to do about the greatest issue facing us.

116 posted on 11/30/2015 12:37:06 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier; Texicanus

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>> Trump, on the other hand, says what most Americans need and want to hear from a candidate, which is, “The illegals have to go.” <<

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No, that is not even close to what Trump has said.

Trump has said that the “good ones” (being all those that have jobs) will leave then return with a path to citizenship. (and Trump’s lipstick on their tusche)

That is the primary element of Trump’s immigration plan.
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136 posted on 11/30/2015 1:05:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Windflier
That's a strange, backhanded way to frame a question.

OK, let me frame it this way. Assuming any candidate who says he will deport the illegals first and close the borders can be trusted to do what he says. Therefore we can trust Trump to do that. But Cruz who has said he would close the borders first and then deal lawfully with the resident illegals after the borders are secured, cannot be trusted because he will not give us specific details at this time. So the issue is really who do we trust the most, Trump or Cruz.

Most politicians and used car salesmen I don't trust as far as I could throw them, but Cruz I trust because he has a proven conservative track record in the Senate. Trump, not so much, because he has not been an elected official before and a democratic switch-over to boot. If nominated and elected, Trump will be running a nation with a Constitution and a rule of law, not a boardroom where he makes the rules.

I trust Trump says what needs to be said, but Cruz I trust to get done what needs to be done using the rule of law. And that is the difference.

So, let us agree to disagree for now.

140 posted on 11/30/2015 1:23:37 PM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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